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The simple answer is if you have a legitimate reason to beat someone's ass don't use any racial slurs while you're doing it
I was putting an edit in before I saw your reply.
But it's just a stand in for when something like auntie/nephew/cousin/etc isn't appropriate because the person isn't native.
It's not a racial slur. It's just what they use for someone that isn't family.
So it could 100% be coupled with insults at someone because of their race, but the word itself isn't inherently racist.
I mean it definitely can be. I mean, fuck, my best friend Kai (who is 100% Hawaiian, from a well known Hawaiian family) just about beat the shit out of another mutual friend (who is also Hawaiian) when he was was joking about his kid gonna catch diseases from the haole he was standing next to (me). Friend maybe meant it as a joke, but Kai sure af took it seriously enough to scrap.
But I've also had another neighbor tell me "Oh you don' worry nephew, you da' good kinna haole", and mean it.
So it depends. It depends how you say it and what context.
I don't know shit about Hawaii so I have no context on what the word means or how it's used. But it seems like a Hawaiian court was convinced enough that it was a racial slur to upgrade this assault to a hate crime.
My advice would be to ask more questions, and make less assumptions...
Especially when you're assuming a disadvantages minority population gets fair treatment in an American judicial system...
https://www.acluhi.org/en/news/special-report-bias-against-native-hawaiians-hawaii-criminal-justice-system
https://justicepolicy.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/10-09_exs_disparatetreatmentofnativehawaiians_rd-ac.pdf
https://ictnews.org/archive/addressing-the-native-hawaiian-inmate-issue
https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/disparate-treatment-native-hawaiians-criminal-justice-system
It's not subtle, and it's definitely not a secret, why are you trying to form opinions on co.plex societal topics off a handful of social media comments?
I'm not. I'm deferring to 12 Hawaiian jurors and a Hawaiian judge.
If I was kicking the shit out of a Mexican in the USA and calling them an immigrant, it would be a hate crime.
That analogy doesn't really make sense...
Here's a real life example of what I heard witness multiple fights out there:
Local vs local
Local vs mainlander (regardless of race)
That's it.
It ain't deeper than a substitute for a word that denotes familiar relations...
You seem awfully desperate to find an example of white victimhood though
You seem awful willing to dismiss hate against a white person like it’s okay to hurt them because they’re white.