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You're thinking I'm saying something I'm not. And I think that was the case with your interpretation of the video too.
Nothing I've said here (or ever said in my life) is pro-intelligent design
I'm a different person weighing in here:
When you said:
IMO it's a problem with the article. The article says that T3SS is cited as an example as something that's "irreducibly complex". I suppose that it's true that it is cited as that. But the second part of the paragraph explains why it isn't true that it's "irreducibly complex". The paragraph isn't explicit enough because the paragraph has probably evolved to be something that's true and equally dissatisfying to both sides.
Yeah, I'm not trying to say its black and white, I'm just saying its not as devoid of nuance as I feel like they're presenting it.
I think the irreducible complexity debate is over. Creationist scientists will continue to publish "but maybe" arguments because defending creationism is part of their identity, but its just a "but maybe this gap in human knowledge proves XYZ". They are starting with a conclusion and looking for arguments that it isn't impossible.
I agree, I don't think that a lack of current understanding proves the existence of god in any way. But them drawing the wrong conclusion doesn't mean that they aren't right about there being a lack of current understanding.