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I don't see it happening anytime soon. We are several tech advances away from a real artificial general intelligence.
Right now the actual existing technology is a very advanced chat bot that can generally summarize and regurgitate information that is put into it, competent image identification, and a few other smaller things. They all generally rely on being given in a lot of information to plagiarize from. In the future these would be components of the bigger scarier AIs but they are not at that point or close to that point. (AGI is totally just five years away so invest now or be left behind)
The killer robots and drones will always require industrial production and there would need to be a big push for industrial expansion to fully roll them out, unless they're going to be luxury weapons for the larger police forces and special operations in the military. I doubt the US would have the commitment to make mass produced cheap drones when companies can make overpriced and overengineered crap for the cops and military. We likely will see more drones in the future but nothing as cheap and reliable as what Russia had started to use in the SMO.
In 2050 things might be there but by then the Fourth Reich will hopefully have fallen out at least be contained.
Also, relatedly, I read this website that I saw on reddit the other day and it's so laughable how little these people understand how their own tech works and how the real economy works.
https://ai-2027.com/
Structurally the article is the tech industry asking for investment and state backing but it's very laughable when you question what is written. They don't understand how long it take to make the basic infrastructure of their own industry. They are just reflexively racist towards the chinese at every chance they get. They also think the chat bots can generate more data to train the next chat bots until it becomes self aware. It would really just continuously eat it's own shit until it becomes too unreliable.
When the ouroboros finishes consuming itself, a new one is born. When the last board in the ship of thesius is replaced, a new ship is built.
I agree that technologically we are far off from having a fully autonomous military. However the economic crises we are facing is not far off though and thats what makes me wonder how the military will try to use AI.
Short term it's probably going to be like how Israel uses it. Basically, set it up to do some data analytics and then say "the robot told us to murder those children because they were Hamas terrorists". Offloading some of the responsibility for the genocide to the machines. Sort of reminds me of how tech bros keep making racist big data algorithms because all the training data for crime is racist and just perpetuates the status quo.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/03/israel-gaza-ai-database-hamas-airstrikes
Medium term it's an expansion of the surveillance state and maybe some semi autonomous systems with human intervention. Probably some new wonder weapons as well. A lot of grifting will happen so it'll be hard to know what really works until we learn how nice it burns in a riot.
Yes, realistically this is what I see happening, but to a greater degree as big tech tries to get the military to employ their AI systems