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Teleportation problem (lemmy.world)
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[–] 20 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Yeah, but you didn't shed them all at once. If the ship of Theseus exploded, and then they built a new one, the question wouldn't be, "Which is the true ship of Theseus?" it would be, "Hey, did you guys see Theseus' new ship?"

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    How many components have to be changed all at once for it to be a new ship?

    If all but one of the planks is new but one of them is from the original ship is it still the original ship, if not then how many planks from the original ship need to be included in the new ship for it to be the original ship?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago

    Look at it's like that. If you change out one part at a time, everyone considers the ship the same.

    Change many components at once and what you hear? "It's practically a new ship!".

    Here, Ship of Theseus solved by instinct and linguistics.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago

    I'd say that it's a matter of timescale, very little if anything of the initial version of the USS Constitution is part of the current version of the ship but id consider it the same ship just version whatever because it was slowly replaced over a couple hundred years. It's the side effect of "living" objects, though if there is one old ass ship that is 100% immune to the Ship of Theseus it's the Vasa.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (6 children)

    It’s all just abstract philosophy on a non-reality scenario, I’m just having fun with it.

    On a heavily relative note, though, has anyone watched Space Dandy? The show about a dandy guy in space?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)

    I did, and I remember enjoying it, but that was 10 years ago and I don't remember it that well. Did they have a teleporter?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    They had one, but it was never existential. They had warp, though, and it put them in the same but different dimension when they used it, so Space Dandy’s cosmic energy warped every time he used it, essentially changing him at a material and energy level but not a conscious one. He has a relationship with an energy entity that decides they can’t be with him because he’s literally not the man they fell in love with, and because he’s used the warp so much his energy is essentially changing the fundamental make-up of the universe.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yeah, I do remember that the series ended with him being given the opportunity to become God (AKA the narrator of the show), and him turning it down, creating a universe without God, which appeared to make everything the same but without narration. I assume that was related to the cosmic energy? Fun idea, but, to bring it back to Theseus, his continued consciousness despite his physical transformation into energy implies the existence of an intangible part of his being (AKA a soul) that continues beyond his human brain. If we ever prove that transporters are teleporting our souls, I'll happily use one. Otherwise, they are 100% suicide booths.

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  • [–] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Meh, I don’t think we have souls, I’d take the suicide booth, it would be cathartic. Especially if it does the fix your health issues thing like the Star Trek teleporters do (except the times it would get in the way of the plot, so it just doesn’t. Because.) maybe I could get a functioning thyroid out of it.

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