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Teleportation problem
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Are there any flies buzzing around?
No but theres billions of microbes on you
Clone myself.
Send clone through teleporter to pull lever.
360 no scope snipe the imposter clone motherfucker.
Claim credit for saving people.
Is cloning that much faster than running to the lever? Do you also keep a cloning machin always handy on you?
The teleporter is basically a cloning machine
If you teleport the people off the tracks then you can kill them all while still taking credit for saving them.
Doesn't it depend if the teleporter open a up a wormhole or used replication?
The Trolly Problem of Thesius
The traveling salesmans trolley problem of Theseus if you try to find out first how to get everywhere efficiently.
You’ve shed and replaced every atom that you were made of when you were born and many times over since then, are you still that same entity?
Yeah, but you didn't shed them all at once. If the ship of Theseus exploded, and then they built a new one, the question wouldn't be, "Which is the true ship of Theseus?" it would be, "Hey, did you guys see Theseus' new ship?"
How many components have to be changed all at once for it to be a new ship?
If all but one of the planks is new but one of them is from the original ship is it still the original ship, if not then how many planks from the original ship need to be included in the new ship for it to be the original ship?
I don't know, but I know destroying every cell in your body at once is called suicide.
Look at it's like that. If you change out one part at a time, everyone considers the ship the same.
Change many components at once and what you hear? "It's practically a new ship!".
Here, Ship of Theseus solved by instinct and linguistics.
I'd say that it's a matter of timescale, very little if anything of the initial version of the USS Constitution is part of the current version of the ship but id consider it the same ship just version whatever because it was slowly replaced over a couple hundred years. It's the side effect of "living" objects, though if there is one old ass ship that is 100% immune to the Ship of Theseus it's the Vasa.
It’s all just abstract philosophy on a non-reality scenario, I’m just having fun with it.
On a heavily relative note, though, has anyone watched Space Dandy? The show about a dandy guy in space?
I did, and I remember enjoying it, but that was 10 years ago and I don't remember it that well. Did they have a teleporter?
They had one, but it was never existential. They had warp, though, and it put them in the same but different dimension when they used it, so Space Dandy’s cosmic energy warped every time he used it, essentially changing him at a material and energy level but not a conscious one. He has a relationship with an energy entity that decides they can’t be with him because he’s literally not the man they fell in love with, and because he’s used the warp so much his energy is essentially changing the fundamental make-up of the universe.
If it's jot you then the question becomes, are you willing to commit suicide so a reasonable facsimile of you can save some strangers.
I'm willing to die to save people, so if some version of me actually gets to survive it, with there being a chance that it is me, then there's no reason for me not to do it.
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Depends if teleportation uses TCP or UDP
UDP teleportation sounds pretty questionable.
And what compression algorithm are they using?
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Shit like this always remind me of the videogame SOMA.
Have had that game in my library for years, maybe I need to play it
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Time to post Existential Comics again
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Define "you." An identical collection and pattern of atoms and subatomic particles? Then yes. A continuous consciousness as experienced by the "me" on the entry side of the teleporter? No.
Would I kill myself to save five lives and create one? Yes
There is no way to know that were not constantly dying and being replaced. The experience of continuity may be an illusion because you don't notice that you're only alive for a split second, and replacing the consciousness that was alive a split second before you.
I say there's no rational reason to assume you aren't constantly “dying” and being replaced by next moment's “you”.
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