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For the love of all that's saint, can we please stop recommending Manjaro to people, especially newbies?
It's not really a preference thing, Manjaro team did plenty of questionable stuff with it, as in DDoSing AUR, mind you, twice, or letting their server certificates expire, also more than once.
It also routinely shows more stability issues that led to the infamous "I swear to god, if it's Manjaro again..." in AUR discussions. Apart from AUR problems, they also shipped alpha quality things to their users, like this and this.
I've used Manjaro myself for around a month. If you are treating it as a regular Arch installation, you will break it.
If you want something up to date, but more stable than Arch, just use Fedora. If you insist on it being Arch-based, use something like CachyOS. Or you can read the wiki and install Arch itself. Arch is a DIY distro, after all.
We should include Mint because they had their site hacked and served malware ISOs.
There's a difference between getting hacked using a backdoor, and letting your certificates expire out of sheer carelessness.
Right.
Getting your website hacked and serving malicious ISOs is way more dangerous for users.
Or maybe this isn't about security at all? Just jumping on the hate-bandwagon to fit in with other people?
I know what I'd put my money on.
i also used manjaro, and whilst they had a pretty looking theme on grub, it broke on me three times, where i managed to repair it the first two and then just installed fedora the third time. never looked back. when i installed manjaro i ran an update after boot and immediately lost a bunch of manjaro theming in my DE… wth?
I lasted 3 months before it broke itself beyond my ability to repair (my entire DE got uninstalled during an update), switched to EndeavourOS, and have had zero issues that weren't me doing something dumb.
I switched from Pop! to EndeavourOS around the start of the year and love it, seems like the perfect avenue into Arch. Still have a fondness for Pop which was my first Linux distro and I had no real issues, just wanted a change
I fucking loved Manjaro as a newbie but I completely agree.
I've never had a Manjaro install not break in the 4 times I've given it serious tries, all from updates. I could've avoided a few them by checking the forums first, but one was due to not updating for a couple months, which seem to set it up for failure when I did update.
I can't imagine cursing a newbie with it.
In comparison, Linux Mint has virtually never given me trouble, even if left not updated for months.