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Image is of a solar park in Cuba, donated last year by China, sourced from this article.


To be honest, I don't have much to say about ongoing geopolitical events that hasn't already been said in previous threads (e.g. with India/Pakistan, Trump/Putin, and of course occupied Palestine), so this is more of a "news roundup" preamble for this week.

As we all know, the US (and the imperial core generally) has only three permitted international actions: sanctions, color revolution, and war. None of these have been going well lately, but sanctions are in particularly dire straits right now. Three examples from the last week or so:

  • The EU is on its 17th sanctions package, apparently, which is surprising, as I thought they were on their 76th or something. It apparently targets Russia's shadow fleet of oil tankers, but I don't think anybody actually gives a shit because we all know it won't achieve anything, so, moving on...

  • The head of Nvidia (as well as many others) have come out and said that the US chip export controls on China have failed, remarking that China's internal motivations to develop alternatives are strong and proceeding rapidly, especially as China's number of skilled scientists is only growing. Nvidia has said that they had a 95% share of China's AI chip market in 2020 or so, but now they only have 50%.

  • Lastly, an interesting one: Iran has received its first set of railway shipment of solar panels from China, and there is hope for accelerating shipments of even more products. Myself and many others have predicted a decoupling of Iran from the West and towards China and Russia (especially if any Western-built product could have Israeli devices implanted into them, such as with the pager terrorist attack on Lebanon's doctors), and having a strong link with China will be a necessary step for Iran and their allies to continue their offensives against Israel.


Last week's thread is here. The Imperialism Reading Group is here.

Please check out the RedAtlas!

The bulletins site is here. Currently not used.
The RSS feed is here. Also currently not used.

Israel-Palestine Conflict

If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.

Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news.
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon. - Telegram is @IbnRiad.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis. - Telegram is @EyesOnSouth.
English-language Twitter account in the same group as the previous two. - Telegram here.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Sources:

Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.
Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.
Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.
Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.
Simplicius, who publishes on Substack. Like others, his political analysis should be soundly ignored, but his knowledge of weaponry and military strategy is generally quite good.
On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.

Pro-Russian Telegram Channels:

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.
https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.
https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.
https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.
https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.
https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.
https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine Telegram Channels:

Almost every Western media outlet.
https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.
https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It doesn’t though.

Bonds were necessary in the fixed exchange rate regimes to take money out of the circulation every time the government spends, otherwise there would be too much money in the system and the exchange rate gets wrecked.

In the floating exchange rate system today, there is no longer a need for governments to issue bonds because exchange rate… floats.

US treasuries are simply savings instruments that allow rich people to earn interests (free money), and it also serves to drain excess reserves in the banking system to target a particular interest rates (though there are other ways).

Every time the US government spends, that $$$ exists permanently in the system until all of them have been taxed back (destroyed at the Treasury), and those $$$ that have not been taxed back and remained circulating in the system (private sector) is registered as National Debt.

In fact, following this logic, the US National Debt is simply a measure of the collective desire of the world to save in US dollars. If nobody wants to save, then all of the $$$ will get taxed back and the National Debt falls down to zero.

Let me give you a very simplified example of how this works:

Country A wants to import consumer gadgets from Country B, so it deficit spends A$1000 and give it to Country B. In return, Country B ships consumer gadgets to Country A.

How did Country B get paid in A$? Simple, Country B’s exporter and Country A’s importer both have bank accounts in Country A, and both banks have special reserve accounts within the Central Bank of A, so they have access to the special reserves pool held within the Central Bank of A.

To initiate payment, the reserves are transferred from the importer’s bank (reserves -A$1000) to the exporter’s bank (reserves +A$1000), and the corresponding deposits account of the importer is debited (balance -$A1000) and the exporter credited (balance +$A1000).

Now that Country B’s exporter have +$A1000, they have to make a decision, and there are really only two decisions: SPEND or SAVE.

Let’s walk through the sub-options here:

  1. SPEND - import other goods from Country A - money goes back to Country A citizens
  2. SPEND - import goods from Country C - money goes to Country C citizens, who will arrive at the same decision point
  3. SPEND - purchase property/factory in Country A - money goes to the seller in Country A
  4. SPEND - purchase A$-denominated stocks/securities - money goes to seller of stocks/securities
  5. SPEND - convert to B$ (e.g. to pay employees at home) - exporter sells A$1000 to the Central Bank of Country B (who also have a bank account in Country A), money goes to Central Bank of B, who then creates a corresponding B$ at their home country and deposits into the bank account of B in country B. Money remains in the hand of Central Bank of Country B - who will now similarly have to choose between SPEND or SAVE.
  6. SAVE - purchase A$ government treasuries to earn interests (free money)
  7. SAVE - leave in deposits account - the exporter’s bank (with reserves +A$1000) now uses that reserves to purchase A$ government treasuries. In this case, the bank gets to earn interests instead of the exporter.

Let’s say Country B chooses option 2 and uses that A$1000 to import raw materials from Country C, then the bag is simply passed along to Country C.

Country C then chooses to import medical devices from Country D, and the A$1000 is now passed to Country D.

Finally, Country D chooses to SAVE that A$1000 instead of spending that money, and so it purchases the government bond from Country A, effectively closing the loop.

(NOTE: in the real world, this cannot go on forever because at every transaction point, a % of the original A$1000 is taxed away, so unless someone decides to save at some point, all of that will eventually be taxed away and the deficit spending aka National Debt of Country A will be zero.)

From the perspective of mainstream economics, it would appear that Country A borrowed A$1000 from Country D, then used that to import from Country B.

It would seem that if Country D hadn’t lent to Country A, it would not have been able to afford the consumer gadgets from Country B. But this is getting it entirely backwards.

If you have followed the flow of the money above, it is very clear that Countries A, B, C all received real goods, while Country D received a financial asset.

Country A had to spend first before Country D can “lend” that money (the same money that came out and went back to the same Treasury of Country A, after going for a ride across Countries B, C and D). At every point, each of the countries will have to make a decision from the number of options listed above: to SPEND or to SAVE. Along the way, Countries A, B, C chose to enjoy actual goods, while Country D is satisfied with saving the money in the form of an interest-bearing savings instrument.

Also if you have been paying attention, none of the money ever leaves the Central Bank of A. It is simply shifting reserves inside the Central Bank, while the banks credit a corresponding amount of money (matched 1:1 to the government money) they received in the reserves to the deposits accounts in the outside world.

So what if nobody wants to save in A$? Then everyone will simply pass the bag along. At each point, some of the A$ will be taxed back into the Treasury of Country A, until all of that is eventually taxed away. When that happens, the deficit of Country A falls to zero, and so did its National Debt.

In the real world, what will happen if every foreign country stops buying US treasuries is that the exchange rate of the dollar will fall, because other countries are no longer propping up the dollar exchange rate. When that happens, new problems will then arise: the exchange rate of the exporting country will become stronger in relative terms, their exports are now more expensive, and the exporting country will have to decide how to maintain the volume and competitiveness of its exports, either by adjusting the exchange rate, lower production costs/wages paid to workers, eat the losses, or find a new buyer to sell their goods to.

I like Roberts’ writings but he really needs to stop talking about things that are only applicable to the gold standard era (almost all of his critique on MMT is moot because of his inability to understand how floating exchange rate system works), because it really makes him sound like he doesn’t understand how international trade and finance work, and this is especially so on topics about China.

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