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[–] [email protected] 69 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Kennedy got to the the moon. (Posthumously)

Clinton eliminated the deficit.

Obama did not achieve universal health care.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Kennedy got to the the moon. (Posthumously)

I think just a few parts of his skull made it to the moon.

[–] [email protected] 63 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Congress wouldn’t let him. The President doesn’t write the laws and can only ask Congress to do so.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Sadly, even if Sanders were elected, it wouldn't have made universal healthcare a reality.

You need 218 progressives in the house and 50 progressives in the senate. So... not happening.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Progressives would need to down ballot vote for that to happen. Would also need to support and fund progressive candidates.

Progressives currently can't even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago

Progressives currently can't even do the bare minimum (actually voting), in large enough numbers to matter.

Of course not!

They're doing something far more critical and effective!

They're withholding votes based on purity testing and otherwise being manipulated into nullifying themselves by online manipulation by the right.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Technically you need 51 or 50 + VP tiebreaker unless a Republican filibusters then you need 60.

You can change senate rules if you have a comfortable majority but I'm pretty sure they can filibuster that, too, and it might backfire like removing the filibuster for SCOTUS and cabinet picks has.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

You can't filibuster a rule change.

Its literally been done before.

First, filibuster was removed for normal court appointments during Obama Admin

Then filibuster was removed for supreme court appointments during the first trump admin.

Neither could be filibustered (otherwise the rules wouldn't been changed, and we don't have 3 trump appointees in SCOTUS)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The funny thing is, americans already kinda have universal healthcare...... just with a middleman. Where do they think those insurance premiums are going?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

There's still a significant amount of people who are uninsured. So, no, Americans do not have universal healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago

Executive order deporting anyone in senate not voting for his agenda?

/s (but only for a few months, then headlines will explain how it's apparently a real option)

[–] [email protected] -1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

He never seriously fought for universal healthcare. He stopped advocating for it before he even started fighting. As soon as he got a "reality check", not a word of support for universal healthcare was ever uttered by him to the best of my knowledge. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

This is exactly it. Obama waged no fight a pre negotiated good healthcare plan to get us the heritage plan.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 17 hours ago

He did give free or extremely cheap healthcare to tens of millions of americans and brought down proces nationwide by creating competition.

And if not for independent Joe Leiberman being the holdout for the 60 it took to pass any form of the bill he would have accomplished more.