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It's very suspicious rhetoric, it's both "no problem at all" but also it is a huge problem that people are worried it might be a problem? So the people concerned there might be a problem are the real problem. Which sounds very "status quo warrior" to me. I've heard that sort of "raising concerns about an issue is the real issue" thing too many times to count.
they also label the only people who could possibly be concerned about it as evangelicals. from what i've seen, the reason evangelicals love the idea of a porn ban is to ban "corrupting" influences that can be labelled as porn, namely LGBT stuff. it certainly isn't because they think it's exploitative of the sex workers, lol
so yea i agree, deeply suspicious
It's one of those topics that people get way too defensive about. I think a lot of people who consume porn don't want to think of themselves as bad people for doing so, so when they hear "porn is potentially harmful" they think "you're a bad person for watching porn" and shut down and refuse to engage.
I literally draw the stuff for a living, and I can absolutely see the issues with the industry (granted, real people is obviously quite different from drawings, but the art side of porn and the fetish community have their own host of issues that people never seem to want to address.)
I don't want to be too reductive, because it isn't everyone, but a lot of people who make this sort of argument seem to be worried their treats will be taken away if we acknowledge bad things about the treats.
oh it's just the same reaction as vegans get huh
omg is this just the vegan struggle session again
All struggle sessions are the same, it's always people fighting their treatler impulses.
The only way forward is to reject everything and live a life of pure asceticism.
I joke, but based on what I've seen (or how I interpret struggle sessions) it always does just seem to be one party who wants to have morally uncomplex treats and distractions, and doesn't like that their actions may have consequences for them or others. I've probably got quite a few treats myself that if someone called them out I would join the
side of the discussion.
i consume problematic stuff but i also recognize its problematic, it's not rly that hard tbh
i mean i even play gacha games for pete's sake
Yeah, I do wonder about the psychology of it, I think it has something to do with people making their hobbies and interests (or consumption) a part of their personality? I'm not really sure though.
It could also just be something like people just having a rough day and wanting to relax, only to have their hobby called out for being bad and they just don't have the energy to shrug it off and get mad about it. We can only view the text people wrote during a struggle session, we don't know the personal circumstances in which they wrote it.
You can't have dirtbikes at 3am sorry. Unless you're using them for vegan direct action, then it's ok.
What about if I need to haul my outdoor cat to a stack of rocks?
Because evangelicals are the ones that push the idea that a person could be addicted to porn and have funded questionable studies to prove it. If you spout evangelical rhetoric online, don't be surprised when people mistake you for an evangelical.
The idea gets consistent pushback because it is not true, and because letting evangelical falsehoods get thrown around on a leftist website is very bad.