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Liberal Party names first female leader after historic Australia election loss (www.bbc.com)

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What exactly do you mean that they're not liberal?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Liberal Party of Australia (LP)[14] is the major centre-right[15][16] political party in Australia.

On the standard conservative - liberal scale, they trend conservative despite their name.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That sounds pretty damn liberal to me. Center right is like the exact definition of liberal.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

in many Western European democracies, traditionally the left is associated with socially liberal and economically left values, while the right is traditionally associated with socially conservative and economically right values

Not sure where you're getting your definitions from?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Where on Earth are you getting your definition from? Economically left values? Liberals? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard in my life. Liberals have spent the last 300 years murdering people who push for economically left values.

Liberals are the capitalist class. They literally are the founding of the capitalist class. You can't separate the two. I don't know if you've just never read any history in your life or what but this is an absurd definition you're using.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Where on Earth are you getting your definition from?

Wikipedia.

this is an absurd definition you're using.

Given that it's the definition most of the world is using, I fail to see the absurdity.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Here's another Wikipedia quote

Until the Great Depression and the rise of social liberalism, classical liberalism was called economic liberalism. Later, the term was applied as a retronym, to distinguish earlier 19th-century liberalism from social liberalism. By modern standards, in the United States the bare term liberalism often means social liberalism whereas in Europe and Australia it often means classical liberalism.

Our liberal party very much matches that, they don't like taxes or unions, and love businesses and deregulation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I highly disagree that's the definition most the world is using. And I think whoever wrote that Wikipedia definition is an idiot.

Also I note you had no arguments to make as to the factual inconsistencies of that definition.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Makes me wonder how they started with Liberal in their name. Perhaps they were liberal from when they formed a hundred years ago and just never updated any of their positions or stances?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

they are economically liberal, socially conservative - so they support business and letting it do whatever the fuck it wants

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Or it's like North Korea calling themselves the Democratic People's Republic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

Their name comes from them being economically liberal, not socially liberal.