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Despite the name, the Australian Liberal Party is anything but liberal.
Hoo boy.
Seppo detected.
Liberalism in the rest of the world means what our party is, you Americans warped the meaning to something progressive. That is unique to you.
I'm south East Asian living in europe, never been to the US.
Well you need to stop acting like an American, because even Euro's know what a Liberal is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_in_Europe
As an European (who had lived in multiple countries in Europe) I can tell you that around here Liberal actually means Neoliberal.
Sure, they pay lip service to a selected set of inequalities (and even then, with massive selectivity and hypocrisy - for example they will at times express anti-Arab and anti-Muslim sentiment) - whilst heavily promoting the secondarisation of the powers elected in Democracy to the power of Money (the whole point of Low Regulation and Privatisation of natural monopolies is that the State which is controlled by the citizens through their vote, comes second to Money) , often openly defending Wealth Inequality.
In Europe the real Classical Liberal ideals tend to be found not in "Liberal" parties but in the mainstream Left, specifically Social Democratic parties.
You know, there is some legitimacy to believing things like that.
The fact that she believes that added an S to her name will make her live a more interesting life will probably encourage her to do things she otherwise would not.
Incredibly fitting for the party:
Whoops, I accidentally purchased a house!
Ooh, that's really promising....
Oh, for fucks sake...
Their name comes from them being economically liberal, not socially liberal.
They aren't that either. They're economically challenged, at best.
No argument from me on that, I was just explaining where the name came from :)
What exactly do you mean that they're not liberal?
On the standard conservative - liberal scale, they trend conservative despite their name.
That sounds pretty damn liberal to me. Center right is like the exact definition of liberal.
Not sure where you're getting your definitions from?
Where on Earth are you getting your definition from? Economically left values? Liberals? That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard in my life. Liberals have spent the last 300 years murdering people who push for economically left values.
Liberals are the capitalist class. They literally are the founding of the capitalist class. You can't separate the two. I don't know if you've just never read any history in your life or what but this is an absurd definition you're using.
Wikipedia.
Given that it's the definition most of the world is using, I fail to see the absurdity.
Here's another Wikipedia quote
Our liberal party very much matches that, they don't like taxes or unions, and love businesses and deregulation.
I highly disagree that's the definition most the world is using. And I think whoever wrote that Wikipedia definition is an idiot.
Also I note you had no arguments to make as to the factual inconsistencies of that definition.
Makes me wonder how they started with Liberal in their name. Perhaps they were liberal from when they formed a hundred years ago and just never updated any of their positions or stances?
they are economically liberal, socially conservative - so they support business and letting it do whatever the fuck it wants
Or it's like North Korea calling themselves the Democratic People's Republic
Their name comes from them being economically liberal, not socially liberal.