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By that logic he's the first North American pope.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_America.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas
Yes? He’s both from the country of America and from the continent of North America.
This is very basic English, it shouldn’t be blowing your mind.
America isn't a country.
You are talking about the USA
Hes the second American pope. America refers to both north and south america. The United States of America only referes to a part of America.
He may be the first north american pope and the first pope from the united states of america, but hes not the first american pope.
America(s) refers to that, yes. American is basically always used to refer to people from the USA. I can tell by the careful wording that you are aware of this and just trying to be pedantic and annoying, which I don't understand, but I guess you get a kick out of it.
There are lots of words that describe things that dint match their original meaning anymore. I used the example ketchup a minute ago. It probably came from a word meaning a fermented fish sauce, yet it isn't that anymore. Should we change the name, or is the fact we all understand it to mean a sweet tomato based sauce (unless stated otherwise) a good enough reason to keep going as we are?
No.
We follow a different continental model than you do that separates them into two different continents of North America and South America.
Which continental model you use here is entirely irrelevant anyway because in neither model is north america referred to as just "america". The only time that just "America" is used is to refer to the union of north and south america.
There is no country of America. There is the united states of america which would make the pope a statesman. So you can have the first north american pope, the first statesman pope, or just settle for second american pope.
Stop being annoying. You're changing words around to fit your message. We're referring to American, not America. That might be a confusing distinction to make for you, but sometimes the meaning of words don't exactly follow their etymology.
What??? Of course we dont call North America simply America, why would you even think that was an argument I was making? That goes against everything I’ve said.
And there is a country of America, it’s the United States of America. No one calls Germans from the Federal Republic of Germany - Federalisians, same goes for anywhere else including America.
Actually, literally the entire world excepted the US does call them "United States of America", if not only "United States", with traductions of those. The French use "États-Unis", often not specifying America, as do the Spanish speaking world with "Estados unidos". And, yeah, we often just say "Germany", 'cause Germany doesn't try to appropriately the name for the entirety of the continent they sit on, like that one weirdo country does.
Absolutely false. In Canada essentially everyone calls them Americans. The country is referred to 99% of the time as one of these three: America, The States, The US.
Oh yeah, the US and the one country next to them, whom they exported all their norms and culture to should definitely be a standard for the entire world, aye?
Cool, do you see me going up to them and demanding they speak it like the English do? Stop being a shitcunt and trying to force your language and cultural norms on other peoples.
Oh and Germany does take on the name of a geographical region spanning more than the present day nation state called Germany. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germania
Your entire argument for why everyone should just do what you want is simply "We do it this way" and "The US is stupid"? Like seriously grow the fuck up mate.