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Nah, it just disengages a fraction of a second before impact so they can claim "it wasn't engaged at the moment of impact, so not our responsibility."
There were rumours about this for ages, but I honestly didn't fully buy it until I saw it in Mark Rober's vison vs lidar video and various other follow-ups to it.
It not about responsibility, it's about marketing. At no point do they assume responsibility, like any level 2 system. It would look bad if it was engaged, but you are 100% legally liable for what the car does when on autopilot (or the so called "full self driving"). It's just a lane keeping assistant.
If you trust your life (or the life of others) to a a lane keeping assistant you deserve to go to jail, be it Tesla, VW, or BYD.
For fucking real??
It turns off, but it's likely so the AEB system can kick in.
AP and AEB are separate things.
Also all L2 crashes that involve an air bag deployment or fatality get reported if it was on within something like 30s before hand, assuming the OEM has the data to report, which Tesla does.
Rules are changing to lessen when it needs to be reported, so things like fender benders aren't necessarily going to be reported for L2 systems in the near future, but something like this would still be and alway has.
What's AEB? Automatic Energetic Braking?
I'm guessing automatic emergency braking
Ok but if Tesla's using that report to get out from liability, we still've a damn problem
If it's a L2 system the driver is always liable. The report just makes sure we know it's happening and can force changes if patterns are found. The NHSTA made Tesla improve their driver monitoring based off the data since that was the main problem. The majority of accidents (almost all) were drunk or distracted drivers.
If it's a L4 system Tesla is always liable, we'll see that in June in Austin in theory for the first time on public roads.
The report never changes liability, it just let's us know what the state of the vehicle was for the incident. Tesla can't say the system was off because it was off 1 second before because we'll know it was on prior to that. But that doesn't change liability.
https://youtu.be/IQJL3htsDyQ
I'll admit I haven't actually watched the video yet but here it is