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As an aside I always thought it was cringe that Americans were playable from the start in those games as if the United States existed since the beginning of humanity instead of being a fucking settler colony.
Civ is a very silly game in general. My favourite part is how they won't add leftist leaders because that would be too controversial, but you can play as brutal monarchs, warlords and slavers.
Ho Chi Minh?
Napoleon Bonaparte?
now it's all capitalistically correct leaders. it's not even that they won't do 20th century leaders, since Roosevelt obviously exists, and apparently there's Australia DLC for C6 with some guy in a hat from the 50s, so it's just that they don't have the balls to do Stalin and Mao anymore
Lenin was the Russian leader in Civ 2.
Stalin was my favourite leader in Civ 1 as a little kid and clearly the eternal science of ML reached out to me through his 32 bit mustache
Mao was in Civ 1-4, Stalin in Civ 1 and 4, Lenin in Civ 2.
Yes and he makes me laugh every time. Look at this nerd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL803pVl0nM
In typical Civ fashion he hates war but will randomly declare war on you all the time. Which is funny for so many reasons.
The animation where he throws his hat cracks me up every time. He's such a weenie.
unsurprisingly, turns out the Australia civ is based on settler-colonial anglo australia (as seen in the Hugh Jackman movie) and not the 99% of civilization, culture and history that happened before the continent was blessed with whites
very cool
Yuuuuup. At least New Zealand got the cool Maori guy. Meanwhile Australia gets this dweeby coloniser lol.
Lmao he sounds like my grandma.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
They at least used to have Mao, Lenin and Stalin. I love those games, but I also know they're built on an extremely liberal end of history worldview.
Yeah was just looking it up and you're right, the older ones did have some leftist leaders at least. It makes me want to play those.
btw they changed that in the new game Civ 7. The game is divided into three ages, Antiquity, Exploration, and Modern, and the America civ isn't unlocked until Modern age.