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Mass stabbing in the German city of Mannheim in May 2024: a new investigation suggests Russia may have had advance knowledge of the violence, raising questions about hybrid warfare (www.thetimes.com)
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On May 31 [2024], days before the European parliamentary election, an Afghan identified by the [German] authorities as Sulaiman Ataee, 26, attempted to kill a notorious Bavarian anti-Islam activist called Michael Stürzenberger.

As Stürzenberger addressed a small rally in Mannheim [a city in Germany], the knifeman went after him, wounding Stürzenberger and four others and killing a police officer called Rouven Laur. The attacker was then shot by another armed policeman.

Ataee is on trial for the attack in Stuttgart higher regional court, facing one charge of murder and five of attempted murder. He has admitted carrying out the violence and said he saw it as his “religious duty” after being radicalised by the war in Gaza.

In the days before the attack, however, there were internet searches from IP addresses in Russia for phrases such as “terror attack in Mannheim” and “Michael Stürzenberger attack”, according to ZDF’s Terra X History documentary. The same computers were also used to search for publicly available webcams on the central market square in Mannheim where the mass stabbing later took place.

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Konstantin von Notz, a Green Party MP and head of the Bundestag’s intelligence oversight committee, said the “intensification” of the attacks in the run-up to the election had been suspicious and the internet searches were grounds for an official investigation.

“I think it’s totally obvious that these digital traces and their evaluation and analysis could be an important part of coming much closer to the truth, and so they should be included,” von Notz said.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Another story without a shred of evidence.

Pathetic at this point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/politik/deutschland/anschlaege-deutschland-russland-hinweise-100.html

You tell me how someone from Russia googled the exact location of event paired with full name of offender days BEFORE the event happening.

This is a clear indication into Russia's direction but it is especially evidence that the whole thing was intended by a third party

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The whole claim comes from a single marketing guy, who did some google analytics. The German exterior intelligence BND has voiced skepticism as google analytics do not provide exact results of exact queries at specific dates and the same can be reproduced for other countries easily.

https://www.n-tv.de/ticker/Sicherheitskreise-zweifeln-an-ZDF-Bericht-ueber-Russland-Bezug-bei-Anschlaegen-article25686014.html

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However, security authorities doubt the informative value of the search: the results of the trend analysis do not refer to the number of searches actually carried out in a selected region and at a selected time, but to random samples and the probabilities calculated from them. ‘The exact terms entered are not necessarily analysed, but also word stems or even just individual words in the query,’ said the BND spokesperson.

Trend analyses with search volumes that are too small result in so-called artefacts due to the algorithms, which are not designed for this type of use. ‘The supposed correlation with these artefacts and a reference to Russia can also be reproduced for numerous other countries, which makes an attribution to Russia appear less plausible,’ it said.

In addition, anonymising VPN use is not reliably taken into account by Google Trends. ‘Search queries therefore allow only limited or no conclusions to be drawn about the actual location of the user,’ said the BND spokesperson, referring to the suspected Russian connection.

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I strongly recommend not to rush into a conspiracy theory that was most likely sawn by a person with financial interest. We already saw where this leads to during the COVID pandemic.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You claim I didn't choose my words wisely, but you misread it seems. I said it's an indication that Russians gov is involved . evidence for staging though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Adding the adjective "clear" before "indication" does change the meaning of that word quite a bit. A "clear indication" is essentially "almost a proof". Also, I don't understand why you claim that likely artifact-afflicted Google Trends data is "evidence" for the staging of the attacks. It may just be evidence of nothing.