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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (2 children)

You didn't answer the question. The genocide must stop, how do you envision stopping it? If you denounce every actual, practical solution without offering any other option, then how is your position meaningfully different from just outright supporting it?

That same line about how "they'd be even worse than us if they ever got power," has been used by virtually every colonialist project on earth. It's wild to watch an old school, 1800's style colonial project playing out in 2025 and to see all the same rhetoric being used, it's like getting in a time machine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't have an answer. I just know supporting Islamists is not the answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You in 1940: "I don't know how we can stop the Nazis, I just know supporting Stalinists is not the answer."

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean...yeah. Those fuckers were as bad as the Nazis. Fuck Stalin, he's a genocidal monster too, he just happened to be on the winning side.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Christ. Well then thank god you weren't president back then or we'd all be speaking German, and we wouldn't be discussing Israel because all the Jews would be dead.

What the hell is wrong with liberals? Do you just enjoy losing?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Ah yes, the famous tankie, Comrade Winston Churchill.

Jesus fucking christ. We've finally reached the point where supporting the Allied war effort in WWII makes you a "tankie." I guess that was always the logical endpoint for you moderate fascists.

This man is your FRIEND. He fights for FREEDOM.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We don't owe you an answer to that question.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, you kinda fucking do, actually, unless you're fine with the genocide continuing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That is a very strange line of reasoning.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

What's strange about it? "The poor should be fed, but I oppose every practical solution to feeding them" is effectively the same as saying "The poor should not be fed." The only difference is rhetorical. Likewise, "I don't support the genocide, but I oppose every practical solution to ending it," is effectively the same as saying, "I support the genocide."

I guess it's strange if you think words and rhetoric matter more than physical reality.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And you consider killing sailors who may not even know their ship is Israeli owned is a "practical solution"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, I do indeed consider distruption of trade routes a practical solution, because it is. How do you propose to force Israel and the US to the negotiating table? Asking nicely?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's an ML take if ever I saw one.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

Yes, people from my instance do tend to have more correct takes, thanks for noticing.

You still can't offer any alternative whatsoever, besides just allowing the genocide to continue unopposed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago

yes. even in your stupid fucking bullshit strawman can you come up with a more heinous event than killing 53 civilians like the US just did.