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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not true. Joe Biden would actually respond to classic government pressure. Trump doesn't and won't care

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Lol well first when did that ever happen? The Dems completely supported Israel just like the Republicans. So when did that pressure ever exist?

The truth of the situation is the timing of everything was intentional. Put the Dems between a rock and a hard place, encourage protest voting/voting third party, Republicans win, even worse situation with no hope and Bibi along with their oligarch buddies in Russia knew they'd benefit from a Trump presidency.

It's really easy to boohoo about Biden's response to Oct 7th. It's really difficult to step back and see the situation for what it is and how it was made to bring us here now. And all people like you can do is repeat Genocide Joe as if this dude orchestrated anything instead of upholding military contracts and alliance agreements.

Biden doesn't act like Trump, the law and the rules affect him. Congratulations your perspective gave us someone who literally won't bend to any rules what so ever.

It's unfortunate but that is politics and that's the president and this opinion really just left everyone far more fucked and for what, moral perspective high ground?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The Dems completely supported Israel just like the Republicans.

Okay, then how are the Dems and Republicans any different when it comes to Israel?

Joe Biden would actually respond to classic government pressure.

Since the Dems are also pro-Israel that pressure was never going to come. What ifs won't stop genocide.

And all people like you can do is repeat Genocide Joe as if this dude orchestrated anything instead of upholding military contracts and alliance agreements.

He can go to hell with his military contracts and alliance agreements. As US president he was well within his power to enforce US law and stop weapon shipments, but he didn't. He didn't even allude to it. People were sentenced in Numenberg for less.

this opinion really just left everyone far more fucked and for what, moral perspective high ground?

So first, while Gaza voters were an important voting bloc the Harris campaign didn't even give them a chance to make her lode. The opinion that did her in was "Hardis sucks", no more no less. Gaza was only one of the reasons people had this opinion, another being—for example—being her refusal to fucking commit to anything.

Sexond, have you ever heard of class solidarity? No leftwing coalition was ever going to hold with the "leftist" party campaigning on genocide. "They came for the Palestinians, and I did not speak out".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

https://connolly.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=4855

Dems who supported Palestine.

Dems follow the rule of law and succumb to social pressures.

This happening on an election year was entirely intentional because you need cash to campaign and Israel injects a ton of cash into people's campaigns. Regardless of how you feel, you need that money to win.

So now the impossible game has to be played where you need this money to win and you can't really say anything too disparaging you're probably better off not talking about it entirely. But voters don't get that, they think you can do whatever cause you're trying to be president and then enemies of the state spend money on campaigns across TikTok and other social media sites putting the responsibility solely on you for what's happening in Palestine.

Then the only question becomes, did you think Trump was the more likely person to help Palestinians? Why couldn't you see the game for what it was?

First they came for the Palestinians and instead of doing my job to help, I pearl clutched that the world isn't a perfect place, stepped in their trap and fell completely for it. Now nobody will help Palestinians or Ukrainians or anyone else who will be invaded next.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 55 minutes ago (1 children)

I read your link and... Uh... Okay? This isn't supporting Palestine; it's vague platitudes about humanitarian aid and civilians. If this is their idea of supporting Palestine then they can stick their support up their asses because that's not how you stop a genocide.

Dems follow the rule of law

Then why did they not enforce US law regarding Israeli aid?

Regardless of how you feel, you need that money to win.

Even after the election Biden and the rest of the Senate did nothing to stop Israel. Don't chalk this up politics—if politics was even a valid excuse (it's not). If they cared they would've made it work. They had one billion dollars; they could've afforded to lose out on Israeli money.

you can't really say anything too disparaging you're probably better off not talking about it entirely.

A party that can't say anything too disparaging about genocide doesn't deserve to win. American citizens were having family and friends blown to smithereens or starving in seas of rubble and they supported it. They didn't just stay neutral; stop it with the genocide apologia.

Then the only question becomes, did you think Trump was the more likely person to help Palestinians? Why couldn't you see the game for what it was?

Nobody was likely to help Palestine. That's the whole damn problem.

Now nobody will help Palestinians or Ukrainians or anyone else who will be invaded next.

To repeat myself for the umpteenth time: Nobody was going to help Palestinians anyway. You keep making excuses for the Democrats but still miss this simple problem. The pressure you keep saying Democrats follow doesn't exist. What ifs don't stop genocide.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago

This was 13 days after October 7th. None of this had happened yet

You keep trying to argue that Biden sucks too, cool okay

Did you think Trump was the better option for Palestine or for anything? Do you realize running around calling him Genocide Joe and telling people to vote third party was intended to ruin his chance at reelection so more harm can come to the world?

You're out of your mind.