I read your link and... Uh... Okay? This isn't supporting Palestine; it's vague platitudes about humanitarian aid and civilians. If this is their idea of supporting Palestine then they can stick their support up their asses because that's not how you stop a genocide.
Dems follow the rule of law
Then why did they not enforce US law regarding Israeli aid?
Regardless of how you feel, you need that money to win.
Even after the election Biden and the rest of the Senate did nothing to stop Israel. Don't chalk this up politics—if politics was even a valid excuse (it's not). If they cared they would've made it work. They had one billion dollars; they could've afforded to lose out on Israeli money.
you can't really say anything too disparaging you're probably better off not talking about it entirely.
A party that can't say anything too disparaging about genocide doesn't deserve to win. American citizens were having family and friends blown to smithereens or starving in seas of rubble and they supported it. They didn't just stay neutral; stop it with the genocide apologia.
Then the only question becomes, did you think Trump was the more likely person to help Palestinians? Why couldn't you see the game for what it was?
Nobody was likely to help Palestine. That's the whole damn problem.
Now nobody will help Palestinians or Ukrainians or anyone else who will be invaded next.
To repeat myself for the umpteenth time: Nobody was going to help Palestinians anyway. You keep making excuses for the Democrats but still miss this simple problem. The pressure you keep saying Democrats follow doesn't exist. What ifs don't stop genocide.
This was 13 days after October 7th. None of this had happened yet
You keep trying to argue that Biden sucks too, cool okay
Did you think Trump was the better option for Palestine or for anything? Do you realize running around calling him Genocide Joe and telling people to vote third party was intended to ruin his chance at reelection so more harm can come to the world?
A lot of it had already happened. Thousands were dead by the first week. But that aside: Then what point were you trying to make with it?
Did you think Trump was the better option for Palestine or for anything?
For the fourth time, there was no better option. People were faced with the choice of which man/woman in a suit would rabidly fund and protect genocide and so they stayed home.
Do you realize running around calling him Genocide Joe and telling people to vote third party was intended to ruin his chance at reelection so more harm can come to the world?
Everyone with half a brain knew Israel was doing this intentionally to get Trump elected. MAGA also jumped on the bandwagon to attack the Democrats. However, the DNC is still at fault for falling for it. A more principled party wouldn't have fallen for it.
Joe Biden was absolutely the better option here. Kamala probably was even better to be frank.
Liberals kill themselves trying to do no wrong instead of trying to get things done.
Everyone with half a brain knew Israel was doing this intentionally to get Trump elected. MAGA also jumped on the bandwagon to attack the Democrats. However, the DNC is still at fault for falling for it. A more principled party wouldn't have fallen for it.
Yes but the DNC/Democrats do not equal individuals, I just handed you a list of individuals part of the democratic party who were clearly not in favor and likely are still not in favor of any of this. That is your space for a solution and y'all spit in the face of it because it didn't do exactly what you wanted because government response is slow.
Are you going to tell me you don't notice the momentum shift? I'd say roughly in the summer, July/August there felt like a growing energy that things might not go in Israel's favor. And now that has dropped to 0.
If you really feel like there was never an option at all ever, why not just terrorize your local government or leave the country? Because I do think there was a chance to make things right and still do, but in terms of Palestine we have failed those people.
Joe Biden was absolutely the better option here. Kamala probably was even better to be frank.
Uh... What did Biden do that made you think that? Like him or hate him, the monicker of genocide Joe was deserved. Harris also did nothing except repeat Biden's rhetoric, which can only be interpreted as a promise to change nothing (or at least nothing of value).
I just handed you a list of individuals part of the democratic party who were clearly not in favor and likely are still not in favor of any of this.
Yeah, so what did they do about it? You know how I said what ifs don't stop genocide? Well thoughts and prayers don't either. I also guarantee that at least some of these people also upheld Israel's "right to defend itself", because Congress just ain't that progressive.
That is your space for a solution and y'all spit in the face of it because it didn't do exactly what you wanted because government response is slow.
I regret that my English isn't good enough to express how ridiculous this statement is. Government response is slow?! If so then why wasn't it slow at approving aid for Israel? And in the first plce these fuckers had 16 months and they did nothing with them except approve weapons shipments for Israel. That's not slowness; that's *complicity. People like Bernie did take a stand and had no support whatsoever.
Are you going to tell me you don't notice the momentum shift? I'd say roughly in the summer, July/August there felt like a growing energy that things might not go in Israel's favor.
That was all grassroots activism and public opinion. The number of federal officials who give enough shits about Palestine to do something about it is still roughly the same—a rounding error.
If you really feel like there was never an option at all ever, why not just terrorize your local government or leave the country?
I read your link and... Uh... Okay? This isn't supporting Palestine; it's vague platitudes about humanitarian aid and civilians. If this is their idea of supporting Palestine then they can stick their support up their asses because that's not how you stop a genocide.
Then why did they not enforce US law regarding Israeli aid?
Even after the election Biden and the rest of the Senate did nothing to stop Israel. Don't chalk this up politics—if politics was even a valid excuse (it's not). If they cared they would've made it work. They had one billion dollars; they could've afforded to lose out on Israeli money.
A party that can't say anything too disparaging about genocide doesn't deserve to win. American citizens were having family and friends blown to smithereens or starving in seas of rubble and they supported it. They didn't just stay neutral; stop it with the genocide apologia.
Nobody was likely to help Palestine. That's the whole damn problem.
To repeat myself for the umpteenth time: Nobody was going to help Palestinians anyway. You keep making excuses for the Democrats but still miss this simple problem. The pressure you keep saying Democrats follow doesn't exist. What ifs don't stop genocide.
This was 13 days after October 7th. None of this had happened yet
You keep trying to argue that Biden sucks too, cool okay
Did you think Trump was the better option for Palestine or for anything? Do you realize running around calling him Genocide Joe and telling people to vote third party was intended to ruin his chance at reelection so more harm can come to the world?
You're out of your mind.
A lot of it had already happened. Thousands were dead by the first week. But that aside: Then what point were you trying to make with it?
For the fourth time, there was no better option. People were faced with the choice of which man/woman in a suit would rabidly fund and protect genocide and so they stayed home.
Everyone with half a brain knew Israel was doing this intentionally to get Trump elected. MAGA also jumped on the bandwagon to attack the Democrats. However, the DNC is still at fault for falling for it. A more principled party wouldn't have fallen for it.
Joe Biden was absolutely the better option here. Kamala probably was even better to be frank.
Liberals kill themselves trying to do no wrong instead of trying to get things done.
Yes but the DNC/Democrats do not equal individuals, I just handed you a list of individuals part of the democratic party who were clearly not in favor and likely are still not in favor of any of this. That is your space for a solution and y'all spit in the face of it because it didn't do exactly what you wanted because government response is slow.
Are you going to tell me you don't notice the momentum shift? I'd say roughly in the summer, July/August there felt like a growing energy that things might not go in Israel's favor. And now that has dropped to 0.
If you really feel like there was never an option at all ever, why not just terrorize your local government or leave the country? Because I do think there was a chance to make things right and still do, but in terms of Palestine we have failed those people.
Uh... What did Biden do that made you think that? Like him or hate him, the monicker of genocide Joe was deserved. Harris also did nothing except repeat Biden's rhetoric, which can only be interpreted as a promise to change nothing (or at least nothing of value).
Yeah, so what did they do about it? You know how I said what ifs don't stop genocide? Well thoughts and prayers don't either. I also guarantee that at least some of these people also upheld Israel's "right to defend itself", because Congress just ain't that progressive.
I regret that my English isn't good enough to express how ridiculous this statement is. Government response is slow?! If so then why wasn't it slow at approving aid for Israel? And in the first plce these fuckers had 16 months and they did nothing with them except approve weapons shipments for Israel. That's not slowness; that's *complicity. People like Bernie did take a stand and had no support whatsoever.
That was all grassroots activism and public opinion. The number of federal officials who give enough shits about Palestine to do something about it is still roughly the same—a rounding error.
Because I'm not American.