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Your existence? The fuck are you talking about?
I'm talking about the stupid meme and Democrats once again pointing fingers everywhere else instead of looking in a fuckin mirror.
If you (the Democrats) want to win a political race you have earn the votes from the people. They have failed to do so now multiple times.
At some point you can't keep pointing the finger elsewhere and you have to accept that you didn't convince enough people that you were the better option.
They need to take some responsibility instead of playing professional victims all the damn time. I'm sick of it.
Hard agree
Fuck that shit. With the stakes that high and threat to society that clear, even a bag of shit should have won against Trump. A bag of shit in the oval office wouldn't do this, and that—not a flashy campaign—is all anyone would need to know to make a clear decision.
We fucked up. Fuck people. We got the government & leadership we deserve.
No, we didn't lol. The Democrats did lol.
Blaming the democrats doesn't absolve the people of responsibility. Contrary to what some may think, eligible voters can think & understand their choices. We'd seen his gimmick before & how he operates. Those who voted for him & those who didn't vote against him did so regardless of the consequences while having every reason to know what that would mean. They're as responsible as anyone.
No, I am not. But you can keep saying so if it makes you feel better to blame me instead of your leaders.
So, you're not responsible for your choices? Are you a child or incapable to predict the consequences of your decisions?
You people are so boring. What was my choice.
You are right, a bag of shit should have won against Trump. But somehow the Democratic leadership was still able to mess that up. Next time, they should bring their A team to the table instead of the D team.
You miss the whole fascist shebang that got setup this past month or so? We're looking at starving the poor and Healing-Through-'Labor' camps for the mentally ill. Our LGBT brothers and sisters are in even more danger.
Yeah, if our thinking is just that this is team sports, or a popularity contest, that's valid.
It's not.
Talking about how it's the Dem party's fault for not 'earning' votes ignores that elections are matters in which the people decide their own governance. "The Dems aren't flashy enough, I'm going to let minorities get murdered" is a choice made by every eligible voter who protest-voted or didn't vote - and, of course, every fascist bootlicker who voted GOP. And those are the only votes which were available to be 'earned'.
The Dems lost. The Dems are also immensely incompetent, and most of the party's leaders at this point should probably be sent to the career-equivalent of a guillotine. But the core reason the Dems lost is because the American electorate consists of a supermajority of fascists, and fascist supporters.
You can try to excuse the electorate by accusing the Dems of pointing the finger at 'everyone else', but 'everyone else' literally is culpable in this fucking disaster as well.
Deeply ironic.
You were so close to getting the point and then you went and fucked it up right at the end.
I hate to break it to you but the "supermajority" of Americans are not fascists. They are simply sick of the Democrats bullshit.
"We're sick of gutless politicians proposing moderate policy in-line with what their base continually elects in the primaries, so we're going to give fascists the go-ahead to kill minorities."
Very responsible citizenship. Very moral behavior. Not fascist at all. Thanks bunches.
Hey I didn't vote for the Cheeto either. I'm just not sitting here bitching about why the Dems lost by blaming everything else except the Democratic party themselves.
I hope by that you mean that you voted for the only other viable option, because otherwise, that's a vote for fascism in our system.
Man, all up and down Lemmy the Dems have been blamed, both before and after the election results. The election happened. It's over. The results are in. That means we have to square with the fact that, whatever the strengths or weaknesses, or the sins or stupidity, of the Dem Party, the result of the election was that a supermajority of the US population gave the green light to murder as many minorities as possible, and save as few as possible.
The Dems didn't fumble a football. The Dems didn't miss a layup shot. This wasn't a game we 'gave' to the Democrats, our aristocratic overlords, to play on our behalf. It was an election, in which we, the electorate, cast our votes. The electorate, en masse - over 2/3s - said "The Dems haven't earned my vote, so marginalized demographics can go get fucked."
That's what I said from the start, and you objected to.
The electorate doesn't care about fascism - if the blue-colored circus isn't entertaining enough, if the blue circus doesn't 'earn' my existence, the electorate says I die. If the blue circus isn't entertaining enough, the electorate says they don't mind seeing fascism murder a few minorities. Maybe it'll convince the blue circus to be more entertaining next time.
My existence has to be earned.
The Democrats have put every marginalized person in danger. Fascism doesn't come out of nowhere and doesn't thrive in real opposition. We are constantly relearning the lesson from the 1930s, there is no such thing as liberal anti-fascism. The Democrats decided not to oppose fascism, but to use it as an excuse to stop offering anything to voters other than moving right and being slightly more polite than Republicans.
Their entire existence is to absorb all opposition to Republicans by being the only alternative, but not actually having any non-right wing positions.
lmao
Well if listening to "the base" voting for moderate politics loses elections maybe they should stop doing that lol
"Stop having primaries" is an interesting take.
Not really. The democrats didn't have a primary in 2024.
Yes, for all intents and purposes there was no 2024 primary, or, rather, no serious 2024 primary challengers. But what you said was:
Yeah. I mean, if they want to win elections. It's clearly not working what they're doing, they keep losing to racist clowns
Okay, so what's your proposed alternative, since "democracy" is no longer an option for picking candidates?
Buy guns
So now the people who are most willing to use guns to get their way choose the candidate. Great.
No, you're not getting a choice in candidates. And the candidates are going to use the state to oppress you. Act accordingly.
... so, "if they want to win elections.", they should... not have elections?
Yes you figured it out good job. Make sure you vote in November.
I don't always agree with your views on trans people, Pug, but sometimes you make a great point. Keep on fighting the good fight.