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I didn't mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. "Everything's lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time") type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I've heard from women irl a lot.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You don't get it? I'm not upset by it, but it makes sense that others might.

What if instead of men it said Jewish people? Black men? Short Asian females? Brown folks? Makes it a little more obvious why it would be problematic no?

It's casting blame/shame on an incredibly large group for no particular reason (humor?). It's just a dumb joke, but again, I get why some might be offended a bit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It's pretty crazy, like when people go ''men who rape children should be in prison for life or capital punishment'' I've never once in my life read that and thought ''Oh no! How mean! You're hurting my feelings, what if instead of 'men' you said 'jews' then you'd see how hateful and mean your statement is!''

Are you a murderer, bro? No? Well maybe this ISN'T about you special boy feelings? Crazy I know.

It's the same when people dicuss any form of racism, or the history of slavery in the US. What do you get? Self identifying white people loading up the comments with ''I DIDN'T DO SLAVERY STOP HURTING MY FEELINGS!!!'' or ''You know what's a totally unnecessary justification for chattel slavery in US history? Also African people did slavery. So. STOP HURTING MY SPECIAL WHITE FEELINGS!'' or ''You know what's a lie that I use to justify my racist feelings towards anyone with darker skin than me? I can blame all the darks for the actions of individuals who are also darks, but don't you dare talk to me about white men statistically being more likely to molest kids or commit arson or murder white women they are married to or dating or being more likely to abandon their children that's FUCKING REVERSE RACISM! I'M THE VICTIM OF THE REAL RACISM NOT THOSE DARK SKIN PEOPLE WHO ARE ALL THE SAME AND EVIL!!''

it's fucking exhausting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I get that you're really passionate about this topic. But the point seemed to have been missed. The parent post is blaming "men" and not "men who x".

The most like-to-like comparison I can think of is "Family life is such a vibe... it's a shame that women like to murder babies tho". Does that help make it more obvious?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I'm a man and I also think it sucks men like to murder, I'm also not even very likely to be the target of an attack unlike a woman and I feel this way.

Imo getting mad at this is incel behavior, it's as if you think views like this are why you can't get laid and not your terrible personality, disgusting habits, and shitty views towards women.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I’m also not even very likely to be the target of an attack unlike a woman and I feel this way

You are technically 3 times more likely to be murdered as a male than as a female though (this number varies by source to be fair, but males are always higher). Now if you remove partner violence (since the post is about random men), that number is even more disproportionate.

The parent point remains though, you're ascribing an ill on a huge group (half of the entire population!). At best, it's lazy, low resolution thinking. At worst it's the source of prejudice, and ill will.

Again, I don't care. It's a silly joke, but I'm not going to sit here and pretend to not get why others might be offended by it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not in a random attack while I'm walking. If I were a woman I'd def pick a bear over you in the woods.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 14 hours ago

If a white dude would say this, the prople getting triggered right now wouldn't even care. The post wouldn't even get that many upvotes. Most people are getting triggered because it's a woman saying it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

the way you describe men as men but women as females says everything i need to know about you and where you stand

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The irony of your comment....