Shit's about to pop off, but we don't know exactly what the orders are yet. I figure we could collect them in a single post and discuss as they come out.

Edit: Official link for orders: https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/

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[–] [S] 70 points 2 years ago (12 children)

Birthright citizenship ended.

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  • [–] 75 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Is that even possible, or are they just going to go back to deporting legal citizens? The Constitution has a 14th Amendment

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  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    They'll have probably several months to deport a bunch of people before it gets to the supreme court, which will probably rule it's fine anyway. Remember that the body deciding if something is legal is 6 far right cranks and 3 liberals.

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  • The idea is that in 30 days, newborn children of illegal immigrants will not be considered citizens due to the "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause of the 14th amendment. This executive order will not revoke citizenship (ex post facto laws create another legal hurdle), but rather refuse to grant it. It's constitutionally grey and will almost inevitably need to go through the courts.

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    The amendment reads:

    “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

    Their argument is that non-citizens are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" and therefore it doesn't apply.

    So it'll go to the courts which will of course agree with Donny

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  • [–] 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    The supreme court will decide most likely. That's the goal with most of these.

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  • [–] 3 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    It bugged me when people were like, "oh well it won't be that bad he tried all this stuff his first term" but absolutely were not considering that he didn't have a supreme court majority backing him then.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 years ago

    Does the US government pay for travel? I can't afford to leave, especially since I'm disabled. It'd be really funny if they deported me somewhere I've never been but had to pay for the other country to take me.

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