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[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 331 points 2 years ago

It's possible for platforms under the influence of the Chinese government and right wing American billionaires to both have harmful censorship.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 83 points 2 years ago

That was the point of the reply wasn't it? Maybe I assume too much of them.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Nah, the point of the reply was supposed to be "America bad", despite most of us clearly recognizing "Elon bad".

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 years ago

I interpreted it as:

haha Chinese censorship

Right here too

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The reply just pointed out the hypocrisy of the original poster.

(As in "here you are a willing participant in a forum were censorship is just as bad complaining about how there is this other forum were censorship is bad")

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

American government bad. A government that Elon will have a lot of influence in starting Monday. There's little meaningful difference between the two.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Still not as much influence as Pooh bear.

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago

Oh honey bear, just you wait.

[-] samus12345@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Not yet, at least. We'll see how the next few years go.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

It's hard to take any apologists for the CCP seriously even if they make a good point.

That user is being hypocritical by using Twitter while bashing censorship, but it would be the cultural equivalent to praising Biden or Trump for never drinking and somebody comes along and praises Hitler for also not drinking. You should not praise Hitler even if it is true.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

Are they CCP apologists? I have no idea who any of these people are.

Without any context, I read it as:

Haha Chinese censorship

You're on a censored platform too.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

In this precise example they are apologists because they're deflecting criticism and bringing up other wrongdoings done by other people in a different part of the world under different means and for different goals.

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago

OK, I dont read it that way so much as "Yeah all these platforms suck", but they are still using them so sure.

[-] Roflmasterbigpimp@lemmy.world 58 points 2 years ago

But... But... the Tankies told me I had to choose!

What do you mean right wing America bad and China also bad?! But which team are you on then?! Someone tell me which crimes to excuse and which to condemn! /s

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I am sure cisgender (顺性别) and other genders are at least shadow-banned on red note. Honestly, I have not heard this word for my entire Chinese-speaking life, until one of my LGBT friend mentioned it.

Everyone knows China is a progressive communist/socialist country that recognizes genders :)

[-] vritrahan@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 years ago

I've come across plenty of LGBT content on REDnote in my short time so far

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

That is interesting. I am genuinely curious, are these by Chinese people in Mandarin/Cantonese, or your fellow "refugee"?

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

are these by Chinese people

It could put them in danger if they posted it, we shouldn’t encourage that

[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

Is the situation that dire that a comment like that would put their safety in jeopardy? Genuinely curious

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is not "say gay and go to jail" kind of situation, but LGBTQ community are actively being marginalized, and any form of promotion and organization are likely not paint the participants in favorable light.

One thing that might surprise the west (like the income and cost of living in China) is that Chinese policies are seldom delivered by a publicly avaliable written order, making it hard to find concrete proofs of government wrong doing. This give rises to the word "喝茶" (drink tea), typically means to pressure certain group or individual into submission without a formal procedure or record.

This culture of doing things "under the table" and several crackdown on investigative journalism has led to many inconclusive proof of wrongdoing and some misconception by many people from the west.

However, there are still plenty of evidence that many LGBTQ organizations are forsed to shutdown, non-heteralsexual couple not recieving appropriate benefit, and harassment from officials. Just to list a few,

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://www.thepinknews.com/2021/09/03/china-masculinity-sissy-men-tv/

Talks about more than just the tv ban

Not the worst place, you can apply for someone to be your legal guardian as a way to get around same sex marriage

But there are also no protections

[-] coherent_domain@infosec.pub 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, you are right, sorry for not considerring that.

[-] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

How? They already posted it to a site that is almost definitely monitored by the CCP.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 years ago

You should really use /s, almost missed it.

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