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House Speaker Mike Johnson stated that federal aid for California's devastating Los Angeles wildfires, which have killed at least 24 and displaced nearly 200,000 people, should come with conditions, citing alleged failures by state and local leaders.

Johnson also hinted at tying aid to debt ceiling negotiations.

Other Republican leaders, including Senators John Barrasso and Ron Johnson, expressed similar views, blaming liberal policies for exacerbating the fires.

Critics denounce these positions as cruel, given the scale of destruction, with over 12,000 buildings lost and massive evacuation orders in effect.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Democrats: Please remember this moment and when it comes time to the elections constantly repeat this on loop as much as possible. We must never forget this.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Democrats: we already know they're pieces of shit

Republicans: Fox news tells me California deserves it.

We live in the post truth world, what you believe to be true is predetermined and nothing means anything that comes from outside your chosen propaganda outlet. :(

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree, but if Trump putting kids in cages and kidnapping them from their families didn't sway enough voters the first time around, this certainly won't either.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

I don't think Democrats hammered this point hard enough. There must be relentless attacks against every bad thing Republicans have done. In addition Democrats must aggressively campaign for their vision with strong simple words.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

I admire your positivity.

Just a few months ago democrats were protesting outside their own rallies.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I honestly really admire your optimism.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Lol you're insane if you think this changes anything for anyone anywhere

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's important to understand how a lot of red Americans see California. It's similar to how a lot of the world sees America. They were once enamored by it thanks to it's cultural dominance but nowadays they're disillusioned and sick of its cultural dominance. Even I as a leftist moving west in a few months am sick and tired of orange county deciding what the Republican position is resulting in my gerrymandered legislature attacking locally popular things like Marijuana (say what you will about hillbillies, they do not like being busted for their homemade intoxicants and many grow pot).

So yeah in short, the cruelty is the point and I promise, having once lived in his district, Jim Jordan would gain votes for it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure most Californians hate Orange county as well. Problem is that its built up enough that they can largely ignore nature telling them to fuck off. Mind you I may be somewhat biased though since I am an Inland Imperial and am obligated to hate everything west of Colton, except San Diego theyre chill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Screw that. Political ppl need to start being publicly removed from office by force over this type of thing. Alive or otherwise. The American people need to start sending a message.