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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

There's a very real chance he does something to prevent it

Although I suspect the outcome will involve some sort of "knife to their throat" concessions.

Whatever the final outcome, it's still an overall loss... to an extent. TikTok very lightly redeemed itself in my eyes once I saw that they allow something closer to "free speech" that the Musk-types jerk off to in a cynical way. The unfiltered footage from Gaza and at other times from other places helped some amount of young Americans see how much they're constantly being lied to. That was the whole reason for the bi-partisan hardcore push to ban it.

So, with that in mind, I am pulling the lid from my third eye and seeing the darkest possible future where Trump has the TikTok CEO and someone like Scuffed Lex Luther (Jon Greenblatt from ADL) come and hash out a "We don't ban TikTok, but you actively block all anti Israel content."

Trump gets a victory and huge boost among young people and the inshittification of everything progresses forward

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

US tech was like hey a foreign gov (potentially not actually that much) spying on US citizens? That's OUR job. It must be banned

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I mean to people paying attention for even 5 seconds that was just a lie.

Even if we fully accept the spyware narrative, no one has made an argument for what Chinese state intelligence can do with all this information on browsing habits and interests of Americans. Are they monetizing it? I guess, kinda. (TikTok does anyway). For targeted ads. The same thing Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc. do. That's not any concern for these people. They claim it's a national security threat not an "influencing American commerce" threat.

So where's the threat? It's not like they're stealing financial information. Not the fucking Chinese state. Maybe individual actors in and around China/South East Asia. That's also still not a national security threat. The implication with that terminology is they're stealing US citizens' information and somehow using it to harm the US government. Like blackmailing military members, perhaps. Or gaining access via social engineering to what they have access to including classified (actually) sensitive information. But zero proof was ever shown or even hinted at in that regard, so, I have to say "That ain't happening." If they caught the Chinese state with their hand in that cookie jar we'd never fucking hear the end of it.

I mean I can go on and on but the point I always arrive back at is "Democrats didn't really give a shit about TikTok until exactly in the months after October 2023 when the ADL was recorded (he's such a dipshit) whining to whoever it was that they had a TikTok problem." One can only assume the ADL tried to strong arm TikTok secretly at first, got properly told what they could go do to themselves, and immediately ran to Mommy and Daddy US government to force them to censor "anti-Israel" content (aka just actual footage without Jake Tapper justifying it). It's what I would do in their place. But, you know, for moral reasons, not in support of genocides. Thus why I'm not in their position...

Allowing Americans to be influenced to see the realities of what their government and allies do to other people... now that might actually represent a national security threat in the long term. Can't let people know the truth and actually demand changes! And changes regarding what Israel does?!? HOLY SHIT!

It makes perfect sense, plus they've all but admitted it was because of TikTok lack of censorship of what Israel was really doing. They're not even really denying it. Romney was up on stage joking about the shit like immediately after

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Yeah I know multiple ppl in cyber security who are like TikTok isn't a big deal, the data security claims are way overblown. I've heard ppl saying theyre worried about ppl being vulnerable to blackmail over like NSFW stuff they post or whatever, but like having a white supremacist Nazi owning X isn't a blackmail threat somehow?

It's definitely about Palestine and it's definitely about fears of other countries doing what US companies and gov are doing. "How DARE you spy on our citizens! That's OUR job!"

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