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Ethnic Minorities and People of Color

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Official Title of this Community: Ethnic Minorities and People of Color

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What is this place? A safe space for underrepresented peoples and peoples of color to talk, chill, and vibe.

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  1. Follow Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines. Non negotiable. This is the bedrock and mods will make decisions with this always in mind.

  2. This community is for ethnic minorities and people of color. This is a safe space where such people can freely discuss their struggles, insight, and thoughts without fear. If you are not, we respectfully ask you do not post or comment here. A future community will be established to allow for racial discussions with a mixed userbase. However, remember, comments here must still respect Lemmy TOS and Community Guidelines.

  3. Irony Racism is still racism. Racism is bad m'kay? We will treat irony racism and bad faith racist satire as racism. Will wield the ban hammer accordingly.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

while i think the intentions of this are good there is still soo much unchallenged bigotry (antiblackness specificly), toxicity, debate pervertism, in the news com. there is also a strange worshiping of whiteness and white men that goes on there that is unsettling. i dont think this "allience" would result in anything positive until such issues are addressed. lastly ive have TWO poc news mega users leaver yesterday and many more over the past 2 month and almost all the ones ive mannaged to talk to have mentioned the toxicity of the news mega being a main reason for them leaving. so yeah i dont think youre on the ball here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

The news mega is also basically the only place I can see Non-American perspectives on the site. The anger from that thread I saw seemed to be Americans wandering into a thread that's internationally focused, spouting something trying to be relatable I guess but came off unrelated and directly contradictory to the current problem they were talking about at worst, then getting mad when it was pushed back on.

I wonder if American POC perspectives can be shocked when they wander into that thread just as much as American white perspectives, leading to confusing cross talk life this. The original poster was talking any colonizer-colonized dynamics, and how the colonized can be tricked by a lack of knowledge of international Imperialist relations. Not victims of white supremacy in the Imperial core getting talked over by well meaning but privileged white people, a very different, very American-centric problem. There are different priorities, allies, etc for these different groups, and coming in second when the context is already established and then getting mad the person doesn't accept your attempt to shift the conversation to their problems seems kinda, idk, bleh. Entitled? Idk the word. It maybe would've been more relatable if they talked about, "ya, it sucks when the Candace Owen, Ben Carson, and the Herman Cain's of the world come in as a member of the colonized class but talk like white supremacists". That's a bit more related to the original topic at hand in that particular thread everyone is talking about. For the record, if the latter problem was talked about first, then ya, I'd see the problem, but the conversation was already set in the other context.

But maybe I'm lucky. I feel sorta new here and haven't seen too much antiblackness in there yet. Seem some strange worshipping of white men, but it's definitely felt less racist than mainstream American news at least. The EM POC and News mega have been a fresh of breath air since I joined and would hate to see either leave, for different reasons.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

With regards to Hexbear not being a welcoming space for POC people, the primary contradiction is the fact that Hexbear is 85%+ white. I wouldn't consider a space to be 85% white to be safe for POC at all no matter the professed political beliefs of those white people. Just imagine getting invited to a wedding where the attendants are 85% white. The only exception is if those particular white people have been ruthlessly vetted by POC who I personally know and trust, which is impossible to do in an anonymous forum. I have said this before, but the fact that Hexbear isn't something like 60% POC is a fucking disgrace.

At the end of the day, the news mega is just a thread, and nobody quits a website over a single thread. What most likely happened is that those POC immediately knew something was up with general Hexbear, huddled into the two places on Hexbear that isn't 85% white (here and the news mega), and got burned out by the news mega for various reasons.

There has been talk among some news mega regulars that the news mega should move to a different site. If you think the new mega is such a problem, then you should be happy. The news mega can fuck off to a different website, and nobody here has to put up with their bullshit anymore. But I suspect that it would be a monkey's paw situation. Just look at all the new people coming in from Bluesky. They're basically all white, and none of them have been vetted to be safe around POC. Not sure how it would benefit POC if Hexbear goes from 85% white to 90% white.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

i have thoughts but i need to wash my hair, and also why do they want theIr own site again?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

It boils down to real and imagined grievances against the admins.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

none of them have been vetted to be safe around POC

One of them admitted to being a former USAmerican soldier in their bio. I would argue that the empire's band of spree killers are unsafe to be around.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

This is another source of my frustration with some people here targeting the news mega. The real powder keg is the new Bluesky users. In the end, they came from a social media website where the average user is practically salivating at all the Palestinians Trump is going to deport to Gaza because the Palestinians rightfully refuse to vote for someone with Palestinian blood on their hands. Remember, the straw that broke their backs wasn't any of the heinous shit those ex blue checks said about Palestinians and other POC who refuse to vote for Harris even though election after election have shown time and time again that the number one correlation of GOP voters is whether or not they're white. Don't be surprised if one of them gets caught up in a struggle session that causes Hexbear to hemorrhage even more POC users.