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[–] dsilverz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If a bird gets sick it will probably die. If a bird is injured it will probably die. If a bird is born disabled in some way it will probably die. Not to speak about all the predators just waiting to eat you.

Is it really different from human reality? If a human gets sick, there's a significant probability of not affording proper healthcare, be it private or public.

If a human is born disabled in some way, they'll need to face several bureaucracies just to continue being state-supported to continue surviving. This becomes even more challenging for "invisible conditions" such rheumatic, neurological and mental ones, because no one else sees or feels it beyond the human that suffers from it.

Not to mention all the humans just wanting to pull the rug out from under you (falsehood and betrayal), be it in professional or academic relations, be it in familiar relations. They won't literally eat another human, but they won't care if others die because of prisoner's dilemma of betrayal and falsehood.

The difference, IMHO, is that there are no made-up predators, no made-up system pretending that they care for other's health, and most importantly: there's no apparent sentience among "wild" living beings of how harsh the Nature reality can be. They simply try to survive as closest to Nature's nature as possible, while humans, no, humans consciously try to make it even harsher for others to survive.

Back when humans still were simply hominids, they needed to fight or flee from jaguars, bears, snakes, etc. We had real predators, until one of them discovered the fire, which allowed them to be "fearsome" against these animals, scaring them away, "delimiting" lands and then filling the vacuum ("Nature abhors a vacuum") of real predators with made-up predators: themselves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago

Yes it is really different from human society. You yourself admitted it. In all those cases the bird has almost no chance of survival while we do. I don't say humans would survive 100% of the time but it's a fighting chance. I don't say it is fair. Nature is also unfair.

Like you stated in many places in the world even a disabled person can survive on the labor of society, even if it is a struggle. In many sane places medical care is relatively affordable i.e. socialized. I once spent a month in hospital paying around ~200€ total. And while that is an extreme privilege some access to healthcare even if poor can be found all over the world.

Humans are capable of extreme cruelty but humans are also capable of great compassion. Especially in smaller groups.