CNN webpage with a photo and text saying "We have a photo showing the suspect's unmasked face. How has no one recognized him and come forward to police?"
this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2024
428 points (98.4% liked)
Lefty Memes
4524 readers
971 users here now
An international (English speaking) socialist Lemmy community free of the "ML" influence of instances like lemmy.ml and lemmygrad. This is a place for undogmatic shitposting and memes from a progressive, anti-capitalist and truly anti-imperialist perspective, regardless of specific ideology.
Serious posts, news, and discussion go in c/Socialism.
If you are new to socialism, you can ask questions and find resources over on c/Socialism101.
Please don't forget to help keep this community clean by reporting rule violations, updooting good contributions and downdooting those of low-quality!
Rules
0. Only post socialist memes
That refers to funny image macros and means that generally videos and screenshots are not allowed. Exceptions include explicitly humorous and short videos, as well as (social media) screenshots depicting a funny situation, joke, or joke picture relating to socialist movements, theory, societal issues, or political opponents. Examples would be the classic case of humorous Tumblr or Twitter posts/threads. (and no, agitprop text does not count as a meme)
1. Socialist Unity in the form of mutual respect and good faith interactions is enforced here
Try to keep an open mind, other schools of thought may offer points of view and analyses you haven't considered yet. Also: This is not a place for the Idealism vs. Materialism or rather Anarchism vs. Marxism debate(s), for that please visit c/AnarchismVsMarxism.
2. Anti-Imperialism means recognizing capitalist states like Russia and China as such
That means condemning (their) imperialism, even if it is of the "anti-USA" flavor.
3. No liberalism, (right-wing) revisionism or reactionaries.
That includes so called: Social Democracy, Democratic Socialism, Dengism, Market Socialism, Patriotic Socialism, National Bolshevism, Anarcho-Capitalism etc. . Anti-Socialist people and content have no place here, as well as the variety of "Marxist"-"Leninists" seen on lemmygrad and more specifically GenZedong (actual ML's are welcome as long as they agree to the rules and don't just copy paste/larp about stuff from a hundred years ago).
4. No Bigotry.
The only dangerous minority is the rich.
5. Don't demonize previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
We must constructively learn from their mistakes, while acknowledging their achievements and recognizing when they have strayed away from socialist principles.
(if you are reading the rules to apply for modding this community, mention "Mantic Minotaur" when answering question 2)
6. Don't idolize/glorify previous and current socialist experiments or (leading) individuals.
Notable achievements in all spheres of society were made by various socialist/people's/democratic republics around the world. Mistakes, however, were made as well: bureaucratic castes of parasitic elites - as well as reactionary cults of personality - were established, many things were mismanaged and prejudice and bigotry sometimes replaced internationalism and progressiveness.
- Absolutely no posts or comments meant to relativize(/apologize for), advocate, promote or defend:
- Racism
- Sexism
- Queerphobia
- Ableism
- Classism
- Rape or assault
- Genocide/ethnic cleansing or (mass) deportations
- Fascism
- (National) chauvinism
- Orientalism
- Colonialism or Imperialism (and their neo- counterparts)
- Zionism
- Religious fundamentalism of any kind
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Thing is, everyone has seen this photo by now. The person in the photo has seen the photo. People who know him have seen the photo. If it were a photo of me, I'd be like, "Oh shit, I better call a lawyer because these cops think I killed someone" and call to clear up the mistake. I'd let everyone know that's a pic of me, but I am not the murderer.
Nobody has done that yet.
You're brave if you think that would be enough for them to leave you alone. I've know a few people who've been stalked and harassed for years by cops who had nothing on them.
Sure, but that's why my first call is a lawyer. Establish an iron-clad alibi, and point out that I don't have United Health Insurance or any medical debt, bring in my doctor who says my arthritis would prevent me from riding a bike that far, package all that up into a single irrefutable tweet and then go have a primetime interview with a cable news reporter. You can't trust the cops, but if you make it known that you are in the photo and you didn't do it, they will hopefully leave you alone.
This feels naively optimistic
Maybe. I'm glad it's not me in the picture.
Never talk to the police even to give evidence that proves your innocence, never ever ever talk to them get a lawyer the justice system is slow and on your side the police can NEVER HELP YOU
Edit: the police are part of executive branch they enforce the law, there’s a difference between all the branches. Police have to prove their case to the judicial, but as they clarified in our basic Miranda rights from that cops tv show back in the day ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU
Don’t say anything lol why would you?
To be clear this is more difficult to realize in the moment you are being questioned. Just sing an old Martin Luther king song to yourself if you know you are innocent.
Seriously? If someday my face appeared on a wanted poster for a crime i did not commit and did not have clear alibi, i'll lay low.
Someone with my motives might have killed a CEO the other day and so I’m trynna lay low too just in case
Maybe. I'd call a lawyer regardless, and I'd be freaking the fuck out.
i'd highly advise against doing that if it ever happens to you, especially with a high profile case like this one.
chances are someone will be found, arrested, and tried for this, it'd be an incredibly bad look for the police to shrug and say "we don't know" - will it be the person who actually killed that CEO, or will it be a scapegoat who just had the misfortune of looking like him and nobody could confirm their alibi of "i was at alone at home watching movies"? Interrogations can last a long time, the longer one lasts the more likely a false confession is to happen because the person just wants the questioning to end, not to even mention the multitude of techniques used by interrogators to get into your head
yes, contact a lawyer immediately, just in case, but don't go around announcing "this is me in the photo but i didn't do it pinky promise, i was watching movies that night haha, no sorry i don't have a habit of telling everyone i'm going to be watching movies, no none of my neighbours saw me that night i was alone"
Never talk to the police especially if you are in a room being Interogated, if they keep you there even though you aren’t talking it means they don’t have much
Never ever ever agree to go downtown to answer questions
Even if you are 100% innocent even if you want to help even if you have helpful info never ever ever talk to the police ever under zero circumstances ever
Anything you say CAN AND WILL be used against you and even if you tell them helpful things nothing the police say can ever be used to help your case because it will be here say and inadmissible
Can’t you do all that after they catch you? Cause there is a chance they won’t and you doing that might increase your chances of getting caught and being wrongly convicted.
I'd be worried that they're planning a raid to come get me and put a bullet in my forehead for "resisting" so they can pin it all on the dead guy.
You're right, the dude in the photo is probably AI generated, so the poliece looks like they have a suspect already and nobody is going to embarrass them.