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I agree with the other things you said about solidarity.
But your implied view of protests, where the protesters have to suffer violence at the hands of the oppressors, is just insane to me.
And cops have been recorded commiting war crimes against the American people, and guess what the recordings did? Fucking. Nothing.
He’s a whiny liberal and needs to stfu and let the left get shit done.
You liberals had fucking decades to fix this with your incremental bullshit means tested reforms. You failed. Miserably.
So two things.
First off, tell them, not me.
Second, we want to make them think about their opinion so that they can see that they're wrong. If you're combative like in your comment above, they're just going to dismiss you as an asshole and not listen to the point you're trying to make.
They haven’t listened for forty years why would they start listening now?
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You are the finest example of the American typical citizen who acts like a frog.... You let the media dictate your actions instead of using your own intelligence.... It's a pity...
Go look in the mirror enlightened centrist.
I’d love to know what media you think I look at. The only social I’m on is lemmy. I don’t own a TV. I pirate news articles from all over, especially business and foreign affairs publications. I read the entire wide spectrum (/s) of pro capitalism right wing to pro capitalism liberal US media. Then I read the smaller independent leftist/anarchist/Marxist stuff. Then I read international news and the general news wires. I read it all.
My view points come from watching this system fail me over and over and over again and seeing the root of it is capitalism and imperialism itself. I cheer on evil CEOs getting shot. They’ve been committing social murder for decades while our government and legal system condone it with no recourse for the public and no more peaceful options left. I can’t believe it took this long.
If you suffered like I have under the American healthcare system you’d quit your enlightened centrist utter bullshit.
I am not saying that protesters should suffer through violence, that is twisting what is said. I said that when you are united as a people, you are capable of great things..... And protest is one of tools that you have....
I pointed out how protests are met with the violence of the state, and your response was "it's not easy"
How else could one interpret that?
Listen what I am saying is that protest will always have repossession, I ain't saying its right but imagine the women who fought for their rights to be considered equal. They were beaten and jailed but it didn't stop them and eventually it brought changes...
Nothing comes without sacrifice and honestly I don't want to live in a world where murder is the solution to our problems as it is a slippery slope in my view.
I don't have the answer, but I sure as hell know it's not the way
So we're back to the protesters having to suffer.
Nah, I think the oppressors should suffer instead.
The slippery slope is a common logical fallacy. It's not real. Look it up.
Look man, I don't see what your solution is here, you don't want to protest so what are you proposing as a solution? Just give power in the end of a random guy who decides to shoot random billionaires? Do you not see what I'd the next step outside of the typical justification for the rich to have their own militia and the actually lead to even worst civil violence?
As I said, I don't have he answer but protest and boycott do work. It is what made the world change the policies for apartheid South Africa, it is what forced the British out of India.
The onyl difference today its that its harder to prevent the truofrom coming out but what is the point if no one will stand up for what is right.