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He definitely wasn't catching casings, he was fumbling with a gun that kept jamming
Agreed, not sure why people keep saying otherwise. They found 3 casings at the scene, and 3 live 9mm rounds. The only way they'd find live rounds are if they were cycled out of the gun while clearing a jam.
Everybody wants to imagine a tv style contract killer which doesn't really exist when the video plainly shows a guy fumbling with a gun that isn't cycling properly
I wouldn't say fumbling. The motions looked practiced to me, anticipated. There was no panic or hesitation on clear. Gun definitely wasn't working right though.
"jam" is really nebulous
Fair - I suppose to be specific you could call it a failure to feed
He wasn't fumbling with a gun that kept jamming. The suppressor used required cycling between shots, as lit likely lacked a Nielsen Device.
He definitely was.
edit: they found unspent rounds on the ground. Because he was fumbling with a pistol that wasn't working right.
I watched the video, and saw no "fumbling". It was corrective action on a failure to cycle, which is expected if your suppressor lacks a Nielsen device.
And from what I saw, it looked quite practiced.
Which part of racking unfired rounds out of your magazine is practiced and professional??
One in which the firearm fails to cycle, due to having a suppressor attached? And when you watch him clear the firearm, its very well practiced. It's not "fumbling". And it's always easier to clear, and fire again, then to keep trying to figure out why it didn't fire. Just rack it clear. Shit, I practice for that, with spent cartridges (To simulate a stovepipe), training rounds (For failure to fire), and other training issues for things that are good chances in the field.
I mean, I don't think this is a paid hit, either. A paid hit would have been a .22 fired to the temple, in all likelihood.
A practiced professional wouldn't have a nonfunctional gun. I think we must have watched different videos, anyway, because nothing about the gun handling looks more than surprise and then fumbling to me.
I never said he was a professional.... just not an amateur, unless we are talking through very specific sense, rather than the colloquial sense.
Guy doesn't have a gun that works right, he racks good rounds out (you should not be doing this in drills), he uses a GPS tracked bicycle
He was definitely an amateur. Lucky maybe, but there was nothing professional here.
probably just not cycling rather than getting stuck or trying to feed two bullets
Its a known problem with suppressors
Looks like at least two types of failures, the bolt/slide isn't cycling and at least once he has to smack the back of it because it fails to feed. I think he may also slap the mag base too? Either way, it's a gun that isn't working right not some fancy exotic assassin pistol.