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Australian Senate, last sitting of the year. No idea when the Social Media Ban debate is kicking off.

If anyone's keen, feel free to give a live run-down of anything interesting in this thread.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

They prolly don't know it exists. If they do, be prepared to switch instance as I doubt lodion will want to deal with Id checking

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

I, and at least one other person here sent submissions in specifically mentioning the fediverse.

Mine wasn't a very technical submission, i tried to focus on the value and potential destruction of that value if safeguards aren't allowed for nascent social media.

So at least there is a record of it. My worry is all the Muskivites submissions will drown out ones like mine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It's not even clear yet what form the ID checking will take. They've rushed this through way too fast and without proper consultation. But there does seem to be some sort of a plan that the ID checking would be done by a government service in some manner, rather than users needing to send ID directly to the platform.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Govt service is still bad, still links everyones social media accounts to their ID. The bill will do jackshit anyways, as under 16s will simply move to social media hosted outside of Australia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So of the top ofnyour head, a VPN will allow you to skirt this law?

I don't use social media beyond lemmy but be fucked if I want to give my I.D to anyone in relation to my online activities

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well, a VPN fakes your country, and the law only applies in Australia. Also, it is an unenforceable law anyways so I doubt it would do much

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

@eatham

Yes, but Social Media apps can derive location data through other means, including time zone and language settings, visible WiFi Access Points, not to mention GPS.

The Libs passed the legislation because they're corrupt.
Labor passed it because they're incompetent.

Either way, it's likely that the AustGov will be the gatekeepers of 'onboarding' and re-verification of existing users.

It's a disgrace.

@Aussiemandeus

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"are you over 16" clicks yes well your honour they clearly provided false data so it's not our farkin' problem.

because honestly what fucking 16 year old has a proof of age card

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

because honestly what fucking 16 year old has a proof of age card

I know this is a rhetorical question, but the answer in Victoria is 0. Proof of age cards can't be applied for until 17y 11m, or used until 18. The other states set that at 15/16 for the most part (I think)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Last I saw the suggestions were drivers license or equivalent, face scan, or digital id. They’ve probably walked that back though or will do so because hell nah

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Govt service, or privatised ID assurance face-scanning service wrought with error?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Like I said, it's not clear yet what form it will take.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'll take that as a no