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Tipping in America has expanded into unexpected areas, with 72% of Americans saying it is expected in more places than five years ago, according to Pew Research.

While tipping can release feel-good neurotransmitters, a Bankrate survey found two-thirds of Americans now view it negatively, and one-third feel it’s “out of control.”

Critics highlight issues like social pressure and wage inequality, while businesses attempting no-tipping models, like a New York wine bar, have struggled to sustain them.

Many believe tipping culture has become excessive, with calls for reform growing.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Fuck all tipping. Fuck unclear prices. Fuck variable service.

Put clear prices. Expect consistent service. Pay fair wages.

If it's about low pay. Why not expect businesses to pay fair liveable wages like every other industry?

If it's about quality of service. Why do you not expect good service every time? Why do you not also tip your doctor for good service or the construction workers who ensured the roads are good for you to use?

Idiotic inconsistencies and morons everywhere defending it. Only in recent years are people finally taking notice, but 10 years ago oh I'm an asshole for suggesting tipping should be banned in favor of consistency, clear prices, and fair wages.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago

A lot of tipped workers defend it because waiters can make good money for their qualifications, but what they don't understand is that they should be making that amount of money without requiring tips.

The problem is that when a restaurant increases prices, they don't share the extra income with the staff.

Hell, Subway has doubled the prices in like 3 years AND started asking for tips for the staff.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

I mean, if you're the asshole for suggesting it, then I'm right there being an asshole with you. I still tip, because I want the people who serve me to be able to take care of themselves, but ideally, that shouldn't be my fucking responsibility. It should be their employer's. It's a fucking barbaric system that puts service workers' ability to put food on the table in the hands of entitled Karens and reduces them to begging for a decent wage.

There's a cider bar that opened in my town recently with a strict no-tipping policy, and holy shit, is it ever refreshing to not have to deal with that rigamarole.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it were about quality of service, you would tip before receiving the service. The waiter doesn't know how much you're gonna tip, so their quality of service will never change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That’s the weirdest argument ever. You tip on the basis of the quality of service. The server learns from feedback and training how to improve quality. It’s not a one and done situation, but a constant feedback and refinement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

It's not that weird. Think of it like paying upfront for "the Cadillac service" where they treat you like a king versus someone else paying for the barebones service where they just do the bare minimum like at a car wash where you can buy different levels of a wash.

The only disconnect here is that tips are typically a percentage of your bill and you don't necessarily know what that'll be up-front but you could still commit to a specific percentage.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

You were an asshole in good company.