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It's ableist to point out the (obvious) mental illnesses of some of the most successful people in the world?
I'm honestly curious how?
Cause they don't have it. You think being pieces of shit makes them mentally ill because a liar told you that mental illnesses make people into pieces of shit, and you believed them.
You think Donald Trump.. the guy who slaps his name on everything.. the guy with a golden toilet.. the guy who brags about being the best and biggest and greatest... You think he DOESN'T have a narcissism problem?
He's not a piece of shit because of his narcissism. He's a piece of shit AND a narcissist.
Drag doesn't think he has NPD, and the guy who wrote the DSM entry on NPD agrees. A mental illness is a problem for the person who has the illness. Not for everyone else. Trump does not suffer any negative consequences from his level of self esteem. He's doing great. He's going to be the president again. He's the most important person in the world. The DSM says the patient only has NPD if they're in distress. Trump is not in distress.
You think he has NPD because you misunderstood what the point of the DSM was. And drag already told you that. You cited a bunch of examples of him being a piece of shit, you didn't cite any examples of him suffering. Doctors don't care if someone is annoying or evil, that's not their job. They care if the patient is in distress. Go learn what medicine is and then come back and have this conversation. And only say Trump has NPD if you want to help him and make him happier. That's the point of a diagnosis, it's part of a plan to make the patient happier and more able. Do you want Trump to do better in life?
Yes. I do. I think if he were happier, instead of isolated from harm by his wealth, he'd be less driven to be a piece of shit.
Content happy people don't feel the need to exploit others. To say he isn't suffering because he's rich and powerful seems like a poor metric. Those aren't metrics of happiness or mental health.
Well drag thinks he's been living in No Consequences Land for too long, doing whatever he wants, and he should go live in a prison cell instead. Drag thinks he needs to suffer in order to become a better person, not become happier.
I don't believe the American prison system does reform. They only do punishment. Which I think Trump deserves, of course, but I doubt it'd make him better.
Drag has no interest in making Trump better by helping him. Drag only wants to make him better by making him less able to hurt others. That's why he deserves prison and not therapy.
If you're right, and Trump has NPD, imagine what a fully self-actualised Trump would look like: he doesn't get offended when people call him weird. He's able to maintain strong diplomatic relationships with as many foreign dictators as he likes. He's not afraid of assassination attempts. He's even more confident, AND he becomes well-spoken and coherent. He stops eating McDonald's and starts working out, and that leads to him surviving another 15 years. That's horrible! We don't want Trump to be more functional than he already is! We want him scared, incoherent, and dying of cholesterol.
Drag doesn't actually think any of that hypothetical stuff is possible. Drag thinks Trump is already the best Trump he can be; that being an overgrown toddler is the limit of his potential. But if you're right, then giving him a diagnosis and connecting him with a therapist would be horrible for the world.
You made a lot of assumptions about the person you're responding to. Whose "they"? Who are the liars? When did the poster say anything about pieces of shit?
@[email protected] to answer the question, one must assume that the celebrity is taking action based on choice, until they say otherwise. It is a person's responsibility to inform people if their actions are compromised. Otherwise, one should point out traits that are toxic, disconnected from a suspicion of mental illness.
Yes, but this assumes self awareness on their part though. Are they narcissist, or are they not, but are making decisions that are self centered and destructive. I'm going on a limb, but I'm guessing most people haven't done their homework to figure it out.