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The International Criminal Court (ICC) has issued arrest warrants for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, former defense minister Yoav Gallant, and Hamas officials, accusing them of war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza and during the October 2023 attacks.

The court alleges actions like depriving Gaza civilians of essential resources.

Israel and the U.S., non-members of the ICC, reject the warrants, with Netanyahu calling them antisemitic.

Hamas also criticized the decision.

The practical enforcement of these warrants remains uncertain, as the ICC lacks authority to compel arrests.

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[–] [email protected] 189 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned ICC Chief Prosecutor Karim Khan’s request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.

Antisemitism does manifest itself in both casual and systematic forms. The region-specific component is also important.

However, claims regarding antisemitism from the Israeli government are increasingly becoming a "reverse confirmation" of sorts. One could almost argue that if they call something antisemitic, chances are it's actually not and may even be the correct course of action (clear cut cases notwithstanding).

[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As a Jew, I'm becoming desensitized to the word "antisemitic." Even my Israeli cousins overuse the word and can't explain to me how this kind of shit is antisemitism beyond "Hamas wants to kill us."

[–] [email protected] 65 points 4 days ago

"You can't cry wolf and BE the wolves. Do you not understand what the villagers do to wolves?"

[–] [email protected] 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

the Palestinians did not get to choose the ethnicity of their oppressors.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And most recently, the Israeli government.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wonder where this vehement outrage was when the iraquis and turks kill kurds 🙃or when uighurs ger marched to camps. Are you seriously trying to make the case that it has nothing to do with antisemitism?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

I mean, I also don’t agree with either of those things. I stopped buying as many Chinese goods as possible because of the Uighurs’ treatment. There’s not much I can do about the Kurds other than support our government arming them? It really fighting sucks and so do religious extremists any kind.

It sucks but it’s all a gray area and everyone is an asshole I guess. However, wiping out a population because some of them are assholes is never going to be the answer.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Decrying the persecution of crimes against humanity as antisemitic is quite something. It begs the question then, what these people see inherently Semitic about perpetrating these crimes.

The blatant misuse of this term is actually very harmful to Jews around the world, since calls of those actually suffering from anti-Jewish sentiment are not taken seriously anymore.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

"Chef overcooked my burger. Antisemite." -Uncle Leo -Jerry Seinfeld

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago

It's the local variant of fake news.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago

https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism

That's the definition they use, so anything you say against the State they see as being against the ethnicity, which doesn't make sense.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have condemned request for warrants as disgraceful and antisemitic.

I wasn't aware he was a stand up comedian. I mean, I always knew he was a clown.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

TLDR: it’s not antisemitic, it’s just anti-Bibi.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

It's like how if some random dipshit harms someone else they go "Oh, so it's okay to hate men? I'm a man so I'm the bad guy?"

When no, you're the one who assalted someone. What you are doesn't define actions.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What region-specific component are you referring to? I’m genuinely asking, not being argumentative. I completely agree that holding Netanyahu accountable for war crimes is not antisemitism, let alone the ICC charging leaders on both sides of the conflict.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I am looking at it from a more abstract, generic perspective.

When you lose the right to freely travel, work, live in your country. There is going to be a lot of animosity around this. I don't think it is fair to purely attribute this to a discriminatory attitude.