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[–] [email protected] 101 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Yes, it's a thing. The idea behind it is that you don't want to become dependent on the pills to the point that they have less effect or that you feel worse without them. Sincerely, a Dutch non-techno non-DJ.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also it can cause or amplify a lot of stomach issues

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Regular use also fucks up your organs. Paracetamol (Tylenol) kills your liver, and ibuprofen kills your kidneys.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

acetaminophen = paracetamol = Tylenol

One compound*, different names.

...Pedantic edit ten days later that nobody will even read:

*plus fillers and binding agents which can vary substantially between manufacturers for many medications, but not the active ingredient(s)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Acetaminophen and paracetamol are the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Others have answered, but I'll say it anyway.

The name paracetamol is used in most of the world, and by the WHO. Acetaminophen is the adopted name in the United States, Canada, and Japan. US pharmacies also use APAP. The most common trade names are Tylenol and Panadol. They all refer to the same stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Thanks, I did not know that

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Also often the pain is telling you that something is wrong - you wouldn't treat a broken ankle with strong painkillers and continue walking as if nothing was wrong just because it doesn't hurt anymore - would you?

Painkillers should make the pain bearable so you can still listen to your body and not take away the pain completely

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

you wouldn’t treat a broken ankle with strong painkillers and continue walking as if nothing was wrong just because it doesn’t hurt anymore - would you?

Of course not! We limp around trying to keep it from hurting, praying to any deity that will listen and some that won't that it heals before you have to pay for a visit to urgent care.

The pills are just to help us go to work while we mentally figure out how many meals we will be skipping to pay for it.

Now ask me if I'm joking.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Depends, how much is getting it seen going to cost me? And can I do my job with crutches I bought at the pharmacy? Cause if I miss a day I'll get fired and the hospital will put me in jail if I don't pay my bills.

America is a shit hole country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

yes, but if i know i broke my finger, and it has a cast around it, why should it keep hurting???

back in the ooga booga days there weren't any casts, so it's pretty logical that it shouldn't keep hurting, but if I already know i broke my finger and can't move it, I think it's okay to use pain killers to stop the pain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have never heard of this in the context of ibuprofen. I know it’s bad on the stomach which means you shouldn’t take it for long periods of time (unless prescribed by a doctor). However, when the source of the pain disappears it’s pretty easy to kick the habit. Very different from opioids that are addictive beyond their painkilling ability.

Also between European countries the price of otc painkillers differs tremendously, and my impression is that European pharmacies generally only sell small packages in an effort to maximise profits.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

that very much depends on your country. here in the Netherlands every supermarket/pharmacy sells them, and they usually have them at school/office administration desks for free.

in France however, paracetamol isn't even otc 😭😭

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medication_overuse_headache?wprov=sfla1

You can absolutely become addicted to all kinds of painkillers. Thats part of the reason why i write down every dose of painkillers i take. Not just the triptanes for my migraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The size has more to do with limiting use.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How exactly do small packages limit use? There is no limit to the amount of packages you can buy. However, those small packages are severely overpriced. I think it’s safe to say that profit considerations played a role in their design.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nobody buys 3 packages at once. If someone does that it raises some alarms. And they come in blisters, not as candy, so your first way of taking them is one by one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I do! I usually buy an annual supply in the Netherlands because it is much cheaper than in other European countries. No alarms were ever raised (obviously since otc pharmacies are entirely anonymous). Again, the price difference between countries gives a strong indication of the profit motive involved.

The argument about blisters sounds ridiculous. Do you really believe you will stop an addict from his addiction because he has to push a bit harder.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can’t become dependent on ibuprofen, it’s not addictive. You shouldn’t be popping it like candy, but taking it when you are in pain is perfectly fine.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can reduce their effectiveness though.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do you have a source for that?

Still, the vast majority of people taking NSAIDs in the recommended doses who have appropriate monitoring (such as the occasional blood test) have no major problems with them.

Source

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

My doctor, but there's a bunch of studies where they injected rats too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I don't think that actually happens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medication_overuse_headache?wprov=sfla1

You can absolutely become addicted to all kinds of painkillers. Thats part of the reason why i write down every dose of painkillers i take. Not just the triptanes for my migraine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Do people develop a dependency on ibuprofen? I didn't know that was possible.

Then again, I don't see why it wouldn't be.