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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Third parties certainly know what effect they have.

Third party candidates that are running specifically in presidential elections and nothing else.

Third parties that actually want to move the needle participate in local elections, caucus with a major party for ballot access, etc. (WFP)

Their motivation is not to make the second party candidate win.

Bullshit.

Green's team literally stated the goal was for Kamala to lose.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/10/harris-vs-trump-spoiler-says-the-quiet-part-out-loud.html

You can find others if you'd like to look, quite easily.

Edited to add the quote from Sawant:

We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.

Its pretty clear the goal there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Jesus fucking christ. I'm so tired of the American political landscape