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Mao, 1956:

Now U.S. imperialism is quite powerful, but in reality it isn't. It is very weak politically because it is divorced from the masses of the people and is disliked by everybody and by the American people too. In appearance it is very powerful but in reality it is nothing to be afraid of, it is a paper tiger. Outwardly a tiger, it is made of paper, unable to withstand the wind and the rain. I believe the United States is nothing but a paper tiger.

When we say U.S. imperialism is a paper tiger, we are speaking in terms of strategy. Regarding it as a whole, we must despise it. But regarding each part, we must take it seriously. It has claws and fangs. We have to destroy it piecemeal. For instance, if it has ten fangs, knock off one the first time, and there will be nine left, knock off another, and there will be eight left. When all the fangs are gone, it will still have claws. If we deal with it step by step and in earnest, we will certainly succeed in the end.

Strategically, we must utterly despise U.S. imperialism. Tactically, we must take it seriously. In struggling against it, we must take each battle, each encounter, seriously. At present, the United States is powerful, but when looked at in a broader perspective, as a whole and from a long-term viewpoint, it has no popular support, its policies are disliked by the people, because it oppresses and exploits them. For this reason, the tiger is doomed. Therefore, it is nothing to be afraid of and can be despised. But today the United States still has strength, turning out more than 100 million tons of steel a year and hitting out everywhere. That is why we must continue to wage struggles against it, fight it with all our might and wrest one position after another from it. And that takes time.


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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven’t been following him too closely recently and maybe something has changed but I don’t think his analysis of either Russia or Israel tracks with that. He says supporting Israel and Ukraine in this way is against US interests because the US loses its ability to have overwhelming control in these places and destroys the strategic positions the US has accumulated for decades. He straight up said that from a US realist perspective, supporting Israel in this way is destroying americas control over west Asia and the oil and trade resources it provides.

I agree the his perspective is always that of the US state department because he sees himself as a continuation of the intellectual circles that support a country’s strategic policy and his team is the US (there is a reason the map in his office still has the USSR on it - he is nostalgic for a time when us strategic planners actually acknowledged that their opponents were powerful and sophisticated and it took sophisticated planning to counter them).

But to argue that the man who wrote the book on how AIPAC has systematically pulled the US into making choice after choice that is against its strategic interest up to and including the point at which the US loses the strangle hold it has had on the west Asian petroleum complex is the same as the US administrations who continue to do the things he says is destructive does not really hold water.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

He says

Again: I know the specific things you've quoted. I've even read books of his in college during in my IR courses. What you're ignoring is the things I'm quoting. The other halves of his interviews. Which is John's undying belief in american exceptionalism, and the policy prescriptions he considers necessary to maintain it. Simply put, you are latching onto part of John's canon of beliefs and failing to see his contradictions. Which is important because any interesting thinker is contradictory.

If Mearsheimer tells you that Russia should be treated as a legitimate Great Power with legitimate security concerns, you can then ask him: should the US do everything in its power to dislodge Russia's status as the regional hegemon in Central Asia? He'll either say yes - because that's what he also believes when it comes to China in East Asia - or equivocate the issue by claiming that, actually, China is the ascendant hegemon in Central Asia. Which would untrue. Russia and China have complementary spheres of influence, the chinese have no real desire to guarantee security in the 'stans and the russians have no heft to guarantee economic growth on their own.

When John writes an entire book about AIPAC and how Israel is causing the US to make choices against its strategic interests, John is actually going against his own theory of international relations. Israel is an american outpost in the middle east. It's purpose is to leave chaos in its wake and prevent the ascension of any potential regional hegemon. Israel exists for the exact same reasons the US supports Taiwan: and there's no equivocation there on John's part. The US should go to war over Taiwan in order to ensure China never becomes a regional hegemon. That is what John believes when it comes to China. The only thing he hasn't realized (or, rather, pretends not to) is that policy makers also believe that the US should go to war to prevent any other potential regional hegemons. Be they Russia, or the EU, or Turkey, or Iran, or Brazil, or India.

The only disagreement there is a matter of chronology. John thinks China is the most pressing threat, and must be dealt with now before the empire is overstretched. That is a mistake on his part, and a failure of his in advocating for the american power that he believes must be preserved. Had Russia joined the EU and NATO, the US would have lost two continents. Should India reach China's level of development, it too will have to be contained - just like the EU was. John's world view is the exact same as the realists in the American State. The only difference is that John is in charge of writing books while policy-makers are in charge of killing whoever and however many need to be killed in order to maintain empire. Both sides share the same fundamental mistake of fighting against the times.

Had John been in any way different from the rest of the american realists, he'd make policy recommendations fed by his theory. Where the US would seek to balance out the ascending powers of Asia, rather than gearing up towards war for their destruction. No, even when Mearsheimer recognizes that the unipolar moment is gone what he recommends is to prolong american primacy as much as possible as to destroy contenders in detail. His desire for the US to continue to rule the world is what motivates him, not his theory.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think you are taking past me and, in doing so, arguing with a point I’m not trying to make. I’m not denying that John comes from a Reganaught chud worldview in the capitol of chud economics and foreign policy taking the chud-jingoist side of America needing to be in charge of everywhere. In many ways I find listening to him sort of like listening to say Chas Freeman. They are both on team America and have major blind spots. But they analyze American problems through a framework that no longer exists within the regime. It’s why they depart so vehemently from the government’s approach to Ukraine and Israel. And understanding how a realist approaches questions from within the US framework rather than the Liberal Crusaders who actually run the country has value in better understanding why the US is failing in all of its stated goals and risking nuclear war and how US institutional logic transformed following the end of the Cold War.

And this is where I think you are incorrect about John’s take about Israel. While the US uses israel as you describe, John’s criticism is that this is the wrong horse to back if the desire is to accomplish the goal. While he still speaks from a place of wanting US domination (which I am not defending) the realist framework he employs leads him to conclude that this strategy is wrong and a different one would be right. And he has been fairly consistent in everything I’ve seen on that subject for the past year.

he’d make policy recommendations fed by his theory

I don’t know if you’ve actually heard anything he’s been saying for the past 2 decades but he has been making policy recommendations regarding russia and Israel this whole time and they are pretty straight forward: when Russian says that eastward expansion of nato will be seen as an existential threat that they will respond to accordingly, you should take them seriously and negotiate a deal rather than continuing to expand nato eastward; that by refusing to do so the US undermines its entire network of alliances in Europe who, as has happened, are not suited to use the military solution on Russia and will suffer collapse as a result. And with that collapse and insistence on military solutions to the exclusion of all others, the US destroys the strategic strength it built up through its network of alliances for 75 years (which he is particularly invested in).

Similarly with Israel, he was basically right that by doubling down on supporting Israel no matter what would result in the total collapse of any possibility of creating a stable situation in west Asia the US could control.

I don’t necessarily agree with most of his China analysis - I don’t think he has a good base of understanding of China the way he does with the former Soviet Union and Palestine - so he basically stars from the premise that what US leaders say about China is true, that it is a threat to the US. From that assumption, he says the US is misallocating its resources and strategic alliances.

In any case, what makes his analysis at least worth understanding is not that he has a great vision for what is best for the world. Instead he is one of the few establishment people from team America that actually tries to apply old-school rational analysis to US strategy.

So again, I’m not defending his America-first positions. But I am saying that saying that he is just the same as the liberal-hegemonic establishment is not correct. And saying he has made no policy proposals that would materially differ from the establishment is just not accurrate seeing as there is ample documentation of exactly what he has been proposing, particularly vis-a-vis Russia and Israel for at least 20 years and it has been to do the opposite of what the US has done.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

has been making policy recommendations regarding russia and Israel this whole time

I'm sorry but, everything in this and the following paragraph was factored into every post of mine in this comment thread and I'm not about to repeat myself for a third or fourth time.

This is as simple as it gets: if you apply John's China logic to Israel, then John is wrong about Israel. If you apply John's China logic to Russia, then John is wrong about Russia.

Israel is not going against US interests. It's fulfilling Mearsheimer Doctrine and destroying all possibility for regional hegemons.

Making war against Russia is not against US interests. It is also fulfilling Mearsheimer Doctrine because Russia is already a regional hegemon and those are Not Good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You factored them in in an incoherent way. “John is wrong about China, a place he knows too little about, so he thinks the opposite of what he says about Israel/Russia, which happens to be correct, but he cannot mean the correct things he says, because he is wrong about China.”

But go ahead. Have the last word:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

This intellectual cat fight was an educational and fascinating read.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

"John is wrong about China, a place he knows too little about"

what