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As the official death toll in Gaza passes more than 42,400, the true number may be impossible to know until Israel’s war is over. But medical workers who witnessed the carnage in Gaza’s hospitals are speaking out. We speak with Dr. Feroze Sidhwa about his op-ed in The New York Times that features harrowing stories from dozens of healthcare workers and CT scans of children shot in the head or the left side of the chest.

The Times called the corresponding images of the patients too graphic to publish. “I personally wish that Americans could see more of what it looks like when a child is shot in the head, when a child is flayed open by bombs,” says Sidhwa. “I think it would make us think a little bit more about what we do in the world.”

We also speak with Palestinian nurse Rajaa Musleh, who worked at Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City. “I will never forget the dogs were eating the dead body inside Shifa Hospital at the front of the emergency department.

This will be stuck on my mind for my whole life,” says Musleh. “My message for the whole world: We are human beings. We are not numbers. We have the right to receive healthcare inside Gaza.”

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[–] [email protected] 102 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Israel was responsible for all this a few months ago

Now the whole world is because we're all just standing aside, watching all of it happen and do absolutely nothing ... we are all complicit now.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Fuck that, none of us can do anything to stop it. Blame the actual people doing it.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We can help protest to change the current administration's policies and be part of the resistance, whether small or large, money or time, everything helps. Collective action is the best tool we have, even if we have little power individually.

https://www.ceasefirenow.org/

https://ceasefiretoday.com/

https://uscpr.org/take-action/

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly. He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it. He who accepts evil without protesting against it is really cooperating with it.

  • "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Martin Luther King, Jr. 1963
[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

The unfortunate truth is protesting will do nothing. Just last year the massive college campus protests were brushed off as "kids who haven't grown up yet" by Democrats.

It's a pretty hot take but imo the only path forward in the US is a regime change if you catch my drift. At the end of the day you won't get a group of politicians to all agree to light their paycheck on fire. (AIPAC)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 weeks ago

I don't really disagree, except for that protesting does nothing. America is a dying empire, a regime change is bound to happen eventually in some way.

Protesting has moved the needle on public sentiment and expanded the influence of the BDS movement.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

People are so used to being expected to take personal responsibility for large scale crimes they have zero chance of impacting individually, like recycling or climate change, it's their default setting now just like their owners want it.

But you'll never hear these self flagellates take personal responsibility for Myanmar, Sudan, Iraq, Syria, China, or the Central African Republic because they only see Palestine in the news. They don't actually care about human suffering, only insofar as it is used to make them uncomfortable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

People absolutely should take responsibility for recycling and climate change.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

We should definitely act in meaningful ways but we are not in any way responsible for the actions of others.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You do if you give them the bombs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Only insofar as their choices in elected officials and their demand (or lack thereof) of actions of those to regulate the industries that actually cause pollution and climate change.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Biden's the one giving out the bombs.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's hard for the whole world to do anything when the largest economy on Earth will undo any small step, political statement or protest with large amounts of cash, weapons and strong arming allied countries to agree with them via trade and sanctions, such as via the Anti Israel Boycott act H.R. 6940 which even affects the European Union. The whole world isn't just standing aside. It's just hard to stand on the path of the freight train that is the USA.

Nevertheless the ICC is proceeding, protest are occurring in many cities worldwide to embargo Israel and the UN is trying to prevent the US from sweeping this under the rug with constant world affirmations of rights of a Palestinian state and condemnations of Israeli actions, despite the US voting against.

Nobel prize winners are using their time in the spotlight to speak about it, presidents and prime ministers are urging more countries to stop trading with Israel, universities are refusing collaboration with Israel universities and exchange programs, investment capital is refusing to invest in Israeli companies and even Israeli tourists are being shunned abroad in several countries, including mine where they were booed on the streets. All this in the face of potential retaliatory action from the US.

Of course, it's not what we hoped it would be or as effective as we need it to be for our dying Palestinian and Lebanese brothers and sisters, but it is a far cry from standing aside doing nothing. People are doing things and it would be a hell of a lot easier if the US either stopped helping the enemy or at the very least did nothing. I don't wanna be writing "America bad" posts, I've been trying to make an effort to avoid making sweeping hot take statements about the US in general, but hot damn, in this case, i can't help it. America very bad on Israel support and this will tarnish US international image for ages to come, even worse than the war on terror did.

The international community sees the US right now as the americans see Harris. It's better than the alternative, sure, but we'd sure enjoy a whole lot less of genocide right about now.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

The problem in the European Union is called Germany, whose politicians seem to have never leaved the whole "We support any Holocaust as long as it's a ´good´ race ´solving the problem' of a ´bad´ race" mindset.

If the US tries to hit any EU country with any commercial sanction the EU as whole is Treaty bound to impose counter-sanctions on the US and America doesn't really want to see its access to a market of 470 million people cut and its tacit support from the biggest trade block around to it's Guerrilla Trade War with China to dissapear completelly.

One of the main reason why the EU exists (the other being to incentivise Peace in Europe through tight trade ties) is exactly because whilst large nations like the US can indeed bully small and even medium sized nations via trade and sanctions, they can't bully a tightly integrated association of nations adding up to a larger Economy with a larger Market than the US.

The US trying that shit on EU nations would just result in a Trade War and a significant acceleration of the current post-Imperial decay stage the US is in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

But there are bills currently in congress going for approval that will target the EU specifically, such as the one mentioned on my previous comment, where US companies would face fines for joining boycott movements promoted at a EU level. Whether they will succeed or not is still not determined, but there are actors inside the US trying to push this agenda towards the rest of Europe. I do hope the EU does as you say and not fold on the US pressure, because i really don't want to see our union bundled together with US foreign policy as it has been since the 2000s.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

What the US politicians think, decide and legislate is irrelevant: the US actually targetting EU nations would directly yield counter-sanctions from the whole of the EU because that's a core part of the EU Membership Treaties (so, not the kind of thing that can just be blocked by a veto from a US-friendly EU member nation), and those would seriously impact the US Economy, not to mention the indirect impact on the US' broader geostrategical influence from treating the EU as an adversary.

For the EU it would be something like Brexit - even if the EU loses from a hard posture, it cannot afford to let the other side get away with it without very painful consequences because that would result in them doing even worst things later and would incentivise others to do the same - only in this case the EU would suffer way less from playing hardball with the US than it did from doing it with Brexiting Britain.

For the US it would basically be comitting Trade Suicide at the feet of China.

If the US Congress and Senate are too stupid and actually pass those laws and POTOS too is too stupid and actually uses it, all without the companies that are going to get screwed the most by counter-sanctions (mainly Tech) lobbying that proposal away into nothing, thats a lot more a US problem than an EU problem and there is no way at all that the upsides are close to even just begin to justify the downsides.

(Sure it would hurt the EU, just a lot less than doing nothing about it would).

Personally I would love for the US policians to try it and find out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If Trump, god forbid, were elected, one of the things he has threatened is to withdraw from NATO and let Putin just overrun Europe. It will be difficult to do anything economically when being actively invaded by someone who doesn't care about the lives of his own soldiers, much less that of civilians.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Putin isn't even able to overrun Ukraine who have been getting mostly equipment from 1 generation ago, mostly late and with a ton of limitations imposed on its use, and has a much smaller population than Europe (and a tiny Economy next to it), and you think he would be able to overrun Europe?

Poland alone would probably suffice to stop him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

That's with Western weaponry helping out. But with orange man, Europe would be on its own. I can only hope you're right with Poland if things go south.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's better than the alternative, sure,

I... Doubt it. The alternative is China, who despite their general nonsense don't really do violent imperialism AFAIK.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I was thinking of Russia (as I'm European they're the most immediate threat), but being honest, while China keeps mostly to themselves, i would not like to be subjected to their level of censorship and dissent suppression. Plus there's allegations that they're committing a genocide of their own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I was thinking of Russia (as I'm European they're the most immediate threat),

I mean yes but the EU is fully capable of dealing with Russia even without US support. Russia isn't really a superpower anymore.

i would not like to be subjected to their level of censorship and dissent suppression. Plus there's allegations that they're committing a genocide of their own.

That's true and it sucks, but it mostly sucks for Chinese people. I don't think they can or want to do any of that abroad.