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[+] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 136 points 2 years ago (5 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 108 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) so the store won't need to pay for cashiers just standing around. Aren't walmart employees also required to stand all day? Kinda insane to me that they're not allowed to just sit down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 13 points 2 years ago That's true for pretty much all corporate retail in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tinyVoltron@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I've ever seen a Walmart cashier without a line. Doesn't matter how many cashier lanes and self checkouts are open. Find it hard to belief they are ever able to just stand around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But in the end won't it be the cashiers who will suffer/be blamed, instead of management hiring another one to help carry the load? I mean, even if you ask to speak to the manager, and wait for them, and say, "obviously you've understaffed this shift, so you need to open a register yourself and start ringing people up, you can start with me," they are just going to blame the poor cashier who got stuck with Grandma's coupons and check-writing or whatever. Or if they are decent, they're already working a register, and it's someone higher up who refuses to hire more staff, despite having a "ghost job offer" that sits out there to look like they're hiring. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) I love self checkout. Conversation with strangers is difficult, slow and often not fun. Separating that aspect from checking out is the best customer service a lot of stores offer. Some stores near me are removing or disabling self checkout. Apparently this better serves the customer. Can't quite see how taking away options improves things, but ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ScoopMcPoops@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) It doesn't, it's because people shoplift at self checkout all the time and the big retailers can't figure out how to stop it. Almost every shop in my town forces you to do self checkout, they don't even have cashiers most of the time. Last time I was at my local walmart they had like 6 self checkouts and 4 cashiers just standing there staring at everyone trying to find shoplifters. They still can't find them though lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Which is bizarre, because shrinkage due to theft at all major retail chains is at historic lows, but they keep complaining that they can't make any money due to rampant shoplifting. Then you look at their profits for each fiscal year and wonder what their deal is if losses due to shoplifting have never been lower and profits have never been higher? It's an easy scapegoat to justify closing low performing stores. It essentially shifts the blame onto the community, rather than the greedy suits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Well, this can't possibly be the case. The giant corporations who assuredly only have my best interests in mind tell me it's what I want, not what they want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago I dare say that the shoplifters aren't even bothering going through the self checkout as a pretense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I respect your preference, and for some people it could even be considered a "reasonable accommodation." But I prefer to have the person who does this all day whip through the scanning and bagging while I pay up. It may not be rocket surgery, but good cashiers have an efficiency of eye/brain/hand motion that I can't match. Especially when there's multiples of the same item, their machine trusts them to do it the efficient way rather than scanning and weighing each item. Or having the produce codes at their fingertips without stopping to read them. And since all machines have little quirks, it's helpful to know exactly where to apply "percussive maintenance." I am comfortable speaking with strangers, so I always thank them and wish them a good day. And I don't stand for entitled assholes giving them shit, either. Having both options is best and should be part of ADA compliance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's fair. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Naura@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago Yea the issue is the employer doing it to make more profit instead of spreading the more profit they make to the workers. There is nothing wrong with self check out. There is something wrong with people being paid shit when the company is sending dividends to stockholders instead. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you ever rang a TV through as bulk onions? I fucking love self check out! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have some new AI thing watching the cameras that will make that a lot harder. Like, it wouldn't let me scan the same item twice instead of scanning both identical items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmaismith@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is why i refuse to use self check out. If they wont trust me to do the job my way i wont do it for free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) For me it's the damn scale under the bag, and how long the kiosk takes to register the weight of the last scanned item. Then the system "unlocks" and lets me scan another item. This system slows me down to the speed of the worst clerk in the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago I haven't had one actually do that in years. I think they all disabled that feature around here because it was so shitty. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The check out is the part where the actual sales transaction occurs. It really is materially different from those other services you mentioned. Also, I don't really care since the part I like, getting finished at the store, happens faster. That was true until they realized they could enshittify by closing all the regular check-outs and force everyone into it. Now it's just as slow as full-service used to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago check out is the part where the actual sales transaction occurs. It really is materially different Like a vending machine? Or the gas station? Or the grocery pickup, where I pay online? What makes a human being present for me giving my money to a machine different if it's a grocery store as opposed to one of those? Sorry your experience sucks. Stores near me regularly have both open and the self checkout is invariably significantly faster. It's not like I just didn't notice that something I do several times a week actually sucks. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago That's not the actual animosity towards things like self checkout, most of the time. It's a distaste for a large corporation to replace jobs with automation. Sure, it's a menial job, but it was still an ability for someone to have a job if they needed one. Labor shortages go up and down with time and what a lot of younger people don't really understand was that sometimes the country would go years with it being hard to find any job. Even a bad one. The last 15 years have been pretty easy to find work, so a lot of the younger people can't really know what it was like when you could go a long time just trying to find a job. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 108 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) so the store won't need to pay for cashiers just standing around. Aren't walmart employees also required to stand all day? Kinda insane to me that they're not allowed to just sit down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 13 points 2 years ago That's true for pretty much all corporate retail in the US. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tinyVoltron@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I've ever seen a Walmart cashier without a line. Doesn't matter how many cashier lanes and self checkouts are open. Find it hard to belief they are ever able to just stand around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But in the end won't it be the cashiers who will suffer/be blamed, instead of management hiring another one to help carry the load? I mean, even if you ask to speak to the manager, and wait for them, and say, "obviously you've understaffed this shift, so you need to open a register yourself and start ringing people up, you can start with me," they are just going to blame the poor cashier who got stuck with Grandma's coupons and check-writing or whatever. Or if they are decent, they're already working a register, and it's someone higher up who refuses to hire more staff, despite having a "ghost job offer" that sits out there to look like they're hiring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 years ago (2 children) so the store won't need to pay for cashiers just standing around. Aren't walmart employees also required to stand all day? Kinda insane to me that they're not allowed to just sit down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 13 points 2 years ago That's true for pretty much all corporate retail in the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 13 points 2 years ago That's true for pretty much all corporate retail in the US. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tinyVoltron@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) I don't think I've ever seen a Walmart cashier without a line. Doesn't matter how many cashier lanes and self checkouts are open. Find it hard to belief they are ever able to just stand around. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But in the end won't it be the cashiers who will suffer/be blamed, instead of management hiring another one to help carry the load? I mean, even if you ask to speak to the manager, and wait for them, and say, "obviously you've understaffed this shift, so you need to open a register yourself and start ringing people up, you can start with me," they are just going to blame the poor cashier who got stuck with Grandma's coupons and check-writing or whatever. Or if they are decent, they're already working a register, and it's someone higher up who refuses to hire more staff, despite having a "ghost job offer" that sits out there to look like they're hiring. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But in the end won't it be the cashiers who will suffer/be blamed, instead of management hiring another one to help carry the load? I mean, even if you ask to speak to the manager, and wait for them, and say, "obviously you've understaffed this shift, so you need to open a register yourself and start ringing people up, you can start with me," they are just going to blame the poor cashier who got stuck with Grandma's coupons and check-writing or whatever. Or if they are decent, they're already working a register, and it's someone higher up who refuses to hire more staff, despite having a "ghost job offer" that sits out there to look like they're hiring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 1 point 2 years ago But in the end won't it be the cashiers who will suffer/be blamed, instead of management hiring another one to help carry the load? I mean, even if you ask to speak to the manager, and wait for them, and say, "obviously you've understaffed this shift, so you need to open a register yourself and start ringing people up, you can start with me," they are just going to blame the poor cashier who got stuck with Grandma's coupons and check-writing or whatever. Or if they are decent, they're already working a register, and it's someone higher up who refuses to hire more staff, despite having a "ghost job offer" that sits out there to look like they're hiring. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (3 children) I love self checkout. Conversation with strangers is difficult, slow and often not fun. Separating that aspect from checking out is the best customer service a lot of stores offer. Some stores near me are removing or disabling self checkout. Apparently this better serves the customer. Can't quite see how taking away options improves things, but ... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ScoopMcPoops@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) It doesn't, it's because people shoplift at self checkout all the time and the big retailers can't figure out how to stop it. Almost every shop in my town forces you to do self checkout, they don't even have cashiers most of the time. Last time I was at my local walmart they had like 6 self checkouts and 4 cashiers just standing there staring at everyone trying to find shoplifters. They still can't find them though lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Which is bizarre, because shrinkage due to theft at all major retail chains is at historic lows, but they keep complaining that they can't make any money due to rampant shoplifting. Then you look at their profits for each fiscal year and wonder what their deal is if losses due to shoplifting have never been lower and profits have never been higher? It's an easy scapegoat to justify closing low performing stores. It essentially shifts the blame onto the community, rather than the greedy suits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Well, this can't possibly be the case. The giant corporations who assuredly only have my best interests in mind tell me it's what I want, not what they want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago I dare say that the shoplifters aren't even bothering going through the self checkout as a pretense. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I respect your preference, and for some people it could even be considered a "reasonable accommodation." But I prefer to have the person who does this all day whip through the scanning and bagging while I pay up. It may not be rocket surgery, but good cashiers have an efficiency of eye/brain/hand motion that I can't match. Especially when there's multiples of the same item, their machine trusts them to do it the efficient way rather than scanning and weighing each item. Or having the produce codes at their fingertips without stopping to read them. And since all machines have little quirks, it's helpful to know exactly where to apply "percussive maintenance." I am comfortable speaking with strangers, so I always thank them and wish them a good day. And I don't stand for entitled assholes giving them shit, either. Having both options is best and should be part of ADA compliance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's fair. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Naura@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago Yea the issue is the employer doing it to make more profit instead of spreading the more profit they make to the workers. There is nothing wrong with self check out. There is something wrong with people being paid shit when the company is sending dividends to stockholders instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ScoopMcPoops@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago (3 children) It doesn't, it's because people shoplift at self checkout all the time and the big retailers can't figure out how to stop it. Almost every shop in my town forces you to do self checkout, they don't even have cashiers most of the time. Last time I was at my local walmart they had like 6 self checkouts and 4 cashiers just standing there staring at everyone trying to find shoplifters. They still can't find them though lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Which is bizarre, because shrinkage due to theft at all major retail chains is at historic lows, but they keep complaining that they can't make any money due to rampant shoplifting. Then you look at their profits for each fiscal year and wonder what their deal is if losses due to shoplifting have never been lower and profits have never been higher? It's an easy scapegoat to justify closing low performing stores. It essentially shifts the blame onto the community, rather than the greedy suits. permalink fedilink source parent [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Well, this can't possibly be the case. The giant corporations who assuredly only have my best interests in mind tell me it's what I want, not what they want. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago I dare say that the shoplifters aren't even bothering going through the self checkout as a pretense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago Which is bizarre, because shrinkage due to theft at all major retail chains is at historic lows, but they keep complaining that they can't make any money due to rampant shoplifting. Then you look at their profits for each fiscal year and wonder what their deal is if losses due to shoplifting have never been lower and profits have never been higher? It's an easy scapegoat to justify closing low performing stores. It essentially shifts the blame onto the community, rather than the greedy suits. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] toynbee@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago Well, this can't possibly be the case. The giant corporations who assuredly only have my best interests in mind tell me it's what I want, not what they want. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 5 points 2 years ago I dare say that the shoplifters aren't even bothering going through the self checkout as a pretense. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 child) I respect your preference, and for some people it could even be considered a "reasonable accommodation." But I prefer to have the person who does this all day whip through the scanning and bagging while I pay up. It may not be rocket surgery, but good cashiers have an efficiency of eye/brain/hand motion that I can't match. Especially when there's multiples of the same item, their machine trusts them to do it the efficient way rather than scanning and weighing each item. Or having the produce codes at their fingertips without stopping to read them. And since all machines have little quirks, it's helpful to know exactly where to apply "percussive maintenance." I am comfortable speaking with strangers, so I always thank them and wish them a good day. And I don't stand for entitled assholes giving them shit, either. Having both options is best and should be part of ADA compliance. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago That's fair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Naura@startrek.website 2 points 2 years ago Yea the issue is the employer doing it to make more profit instead of spreading the more profit they make to the workers. There is nothing wrong with self check out. There is something wrong with people being paid shit when the company is sending dividends to stockholders instead. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago (1 child) Have you ever rang a TV through as bulk onions? I fucking love self check out! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have some new AI thing watching the cameras that will make that a lot harder. Like, it wouldn't let me scan the same item twice instead of scanning both identical items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmaismith@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is why i refuse to use self check out. If they wont trust me to do the job my way i wont do it for free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) For me it's the damn scale under the bag, and how long the kiosk takes to register the weight of the last scanned item. Then the system "unlocks" and lets me scan another item. This system slows me down to the speed of the worst clerk in the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago I haven't had one actually do that in years. I think they all disabled that feature around here because it was so shitty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 2 years ago (1 child) They have some new AI thing watching the cameras that will make that a lot harder. Like, it wouldn't let me scan the same item twice instead of scanning both identical items. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kmaismith@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is why i refuse to use self check out. If they wont trust me to do the job my way i wont do it for free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) For me it's the damn scale under the bag, and how long the kiosk takes to register the weight of the last scanned item. Then the system "unlocks" and lets me scan another item. This system slows me down to the speed of the worst clerk in the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago I haven't had one actually do that in years. I think they all disabled that feature around here because it was so shitty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kmaismith@lemm.ee 10 points 2 years ago (1 child) This is why i refuse to use self check out. If they wont trust me to do the job my way i wont do it for free. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) For me it's the damn scale under the bag, and how long the kiosk takes to register the weight of the last scanned item. Then the system "unlocks" and lets me scan another item. This system slows me down to the speed of the worst clerk in the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago I haven't had one actually do that in years. I think they all disabled that feature around here because it was so shitty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) For me it's the damn scale under the bag, and how long the kiosk takes to register the weight of the last scanned item. Then the system "unlocks" and lets me scan another item. This system slows me down to the speed of the worst clerk in the store. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago I haven't had one actually do that in years. I think they all disabled that feature around here because it was so shitty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 2 points 2 years ago I haven't had one actually do that in years. I think they all disabled that feature around here because it was so shitty. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (1 child) The check out is the part where the actual sales transaction occurs. It really is materially different from those other services you mentioned. Also, I don't really care since the part I like, getting finished at the store, happens faster. That was true until they realized they could enshittify by closing all the regular check-outs and force everyone into it. Now it's just as slow as full-service used to be. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago check out is the part where the actual sales transaction occurs. It really is materially different Like a vending machine? Or the gas station? Or the grocery pickup, where I pay online? What makes a human being present for me giving my money to a machine different if it's a grocery store as opposed to one of those? Sorry your experience sucks. Stores near me regularly have both open and the self checkout is invariably significantly faster. It's not like I just didn't notice that something I do several times a week actually sucks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago check out is the part where the actual sales transaction occurs. It really is materially different Like a vending machine? Or the gas station? Or the grocery pickup, where I pay online? What makes a human being present for me giving my money to a machine different if it's a grocery store as opposed to one of those? Sorry your experience sucks. Stores near me regularly have both open and the self checkout is invariably significantly faster. It's not like I just didn't notice that something I do several times a week actually sucks. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 2 years ago That's not the actual animosity towards things like self checkout, most of the time. It's a distaste for a large corporation to replace jobs with automation. Sure, it's a menial job, but it was still an ability for someone to have a job if they needed one. Labor shortages go up and down with time and what a lot of younger people don't really understand was that sometimes the country would go years with it being hard to find any job. Even a bad one. The last 15 years have been pretty easy to find work, so a lot of the younger people can't really know what it was like when you could go a long time just trying to find a job. permalink fedilink source parent