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Under communism, how do we clean our clothes?

  • It's not really efficient for every housing unit to have its own washing machine let alone dryer
    • some people can dry clothes on lines but some can't
  • Washing clothes by hand sucks
  • Laundromats suck
  • Industrialized clothes washing? I have no direct experience with this

And it needs so much water.

To my mind laundry is one of the most intractable issues.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

you're assuming that there are no negative effects of using washing machines, which is not an assumption I feel comfortable making.

and I never claimed to be a marxist, don't go throwing that around as an insult

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The negative effects of washing machines are that they consume quite a bit of electricity. This, however, is negligible compared to transportation, recreation, and cooling. Going back to 18th century technology serves only to waste a considerable amount of effort from the workers in order to save very little electricity. Furthermore, the issue with electricity is not overconsumption from residential sources, but rather industrial overconsumption and poor production.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The negative effects of washing machines are that they consume quite a bit of electricity

What mathematical formula did you use to determine that washing machines consume less water than hand washing? Or that the production and shipping of washing machines totals less labor than hand washing?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

M'=M+M∆ applies here, but the expression C'=c+v+s also applies. The issue with all the equations derived from M -> C -> M set is that they all assume exploitation by the capitalist and don't precisely map to socialist production. I strongly recommend you read Capital to understand how the labor process works. Pay special attention to chapter 1 of volume 1 as that clears up most of your misconceptions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Anti washing machine thought is revisionism