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How do we get people on hexbear to read Lenin (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Two things you can do:

ChatGPT bullet points summaries of people who just post excerpts from news articles and treat that as a genuine comment or interpretation of the facts thereof, with a prompt like "analyze this but from a marxist leninist analysis". (That really annoys me btw, people just posting a paragraph and highlighting it. Say what you mean/interpret. It's a lot t have the reader have to sus out what you mean".)
Read a page at a time of State and Revolution and Imperialism: Highest Stage of Capitalism. Afterward, just paraphrase the theories from those publications and remember to cite his works when addressing topics of conversation like news, politics, and economics.

e.g: Saying something as common knowledge in Hexbear like "Police are inherently reactionary in a bourgeois state since state violence is the means of mediation of class conflict between the capitalist and labor classes." is in fact, Lenin's premise of why the state exists in State and Revolution.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (2 children)

ChatGPT bullet points summaries of people who just post excerpts from news articles and treat that as a genuine comment or interpretation of the facts thereof, with a prompt like "analyze this but from a marxist leninist analysis". (That really annoys me btw, people just posting a paragraph and highlighting it. Say what you mean/interpret. It's a lot t have the reader have to sus out what you mean".)

I don't like this. Marxist analysis is very detailed and has a lot of depth to it and a lot of ways to go wrong. ChatGPT is almost entirely trained on liberal sources, and thus results in a liberal impersonation of Marxist analysis. Marxist analysis is a method of thought, not a syntax, making LLMs struggle with it quite a bit.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fair point. I suppose I thought if one is too lethargic to read then one is too lethargic to think, then at that point you might as well outsource it.

felix-linus tier thought, shouldn't have advised it. mb.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Using Prolewiki as the source.

In a bourgeois democracy, the role and nature of the police are complex and often controversial. Based on the principles outlined in ProleWiki, we can analyze the police in bourgeois democracies as follows:

Function within the Capitalist System

The police in a bourgeois democracy primarily serve to maintain the existing social and economic order, which benefits the bourgeoisie (ruling class) at the expense of the proletariat (working class)[1][2]. Their main functions include:

Protecting private property and enforcing property laws
Suppressing working-class movements and strikes
Maintaining public order in a way that preserves bourgeois interests

Relationship to State Power

In bourgeois democracies, the police are an integral part of the state apparatus, which Marx and Lenin described as an instrument of class rule[2]. The police, along with other state institutions, help to enforce the "dictatorship of the bourgeoisie" - the political dominance of the capitalist class.

Role in Social Control

The police play a crucial role in social control within bourgeois democracies:

Enforcing class divisions: They often disproportionately target working-class and marginalized communities.
Suppressing dissent: Police are frequently used to break up protests and demonstrations that challenge the status quo.
Maintaining ideological control: Through their actions and public presence, police reinforce the legitimacy of the bourgeois state.

Contradictions and Limitations

While the police in bourgeois democracies claim to serve and protect all citizens, their actions often reveal the class nature of their role:

Selective enforcement: Laws are often applied more strictly to working-class and marginalized communities.
Protection of capital: During labor disputes, police typically side with employers rather than workers.
Militarization: Many police forces in bourgeois democracies have become increasingly militarized, reflecting the state's preparation for potential class conflict[4].

It's important to note that individual police officers may not be consciously aware of their role in maintaining class society. Many join the force with genuine intentions to help their communities. However, the institutional structure and function of the police in bourgeois democracies ultimately serve to uphold capitalist relations of production and bourgeois political dominance[1][2].

Sources [1] Fascism - ProleWiki https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Fascism [2] Bourgeois democracy - ProleWiki https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Bourgeois_democracy [3] Bourgeoisie - ProleWiki https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Bourgeoisie [4] Democratic People's Republic of Korea - ProleWiki https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Democratic_People's_Republic_of_Korea [5] ProleWiki:Principles https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/ProleWiki:Principles