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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So I'm going to try and bridge the gap here since this is a weirdly toxic thread and I hope just by old (? Fuck I hope I'm not old) people. I'm a millennial, so here we go.

Chappell Roan is a Gen Z musician. I legitimately couldn't name a single one of her songs. I've been told "here, listen to this" more than a dozen times. I still have no idea.

As she mentions in this video this is her third presidential election. She has never voted in an election where Donald Trump wasn't the Republican nominee.

Think about that for a minute. Seriously. Imagine only viewing Republicans as the party of Trump. How fucked up is that? Hillary v Trump. Biden v Trump. Harris v Trump.

Remember voting for Hope in '08? I don't care what you think about Obama now. Remember '08 Obama? You voted against McCain. Do you know how much I wish I could vote FOR McCain now? How much I wish I could vote FOR Romney now? We live in a fucking twilight zone now. I'm thrilled to vote for Harris and Biden before her. Biden for the last four years has been fucking bliss. Harris for the next four years is a god send.

But Biden isn't above criticism. Harris isn't above criticism. They are when compared to the orange blob but you can't live in that fucking world.

It's fucked up when you look at the world we're in now. Some random gen z musician says I can't endorse Harris? I get it. I've been there. She sure as shit isn't endorsing Trump but to look at Harris and go "Fuck Yeah!"... that just isn't happening.

Trump had pulled us SOOOOOO FARRRR off course. He's ruined an entire generation. An entire generation, gone, wasted to Trump. It's fucking horrible.

Gen Z, bless their hearts, didn't go through what we went through. Luckily we're homies with Gen Z. I'm not sure we fully understand each other but at the end of the day we agree with each other.

I don't want to leave them out but Gen X stared this fight. Us Millennials kept it going. And finally we have the numbers with Gen Z. We're going to move forward. We're going to move past Trump. (If you can fucking vote this round GET OFF YOUR FUCKING ASS.)

Chappell Roan is your little sister. I don't care that you don't know who she is. She's on our side. She's speaking honestly. She isn't quite as jaded as you are. She's got a following. I don't care what Taylor Swift said either, but she's right. She agrees. We need to move forward.

I get it. She didn't endorse Kamala. Whatever. She ultimately agrees with her. Not on everything. We still got work to do. We know Kamala is the next step. We understand this takes multiple steps. Voting for multiple steps isn't sexy. "What do we want" "Change" "When do we want it" "Slowly over the next several years" That isn't sexy. But bus stops aren't sexy.

We're taking a bus. You're there. A weird dude is there wearing a cape. A weird lady is there petting a Beanie Baby. I don't want to get on the bus either, but it's going the way I want to go, so I'm getting on.

Join us.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As she mentions in this video this is her third presidential election. She has never voted in an election where Donald Trump wasn't the Republican nominee.

Think about that for a minute. Seriously. Imagine only viewing Republicans as the party of Trump. How fucked up is that? Hillary v Trump. Biden v Trump. Harris v Trump.

The first seven presidential elections of my lifetime included either a Bush or a Clinton on the ticket. Then the eighth had a Clinton very involved in the primary. The ninth had neither. And then the 10th had a Clinton on the ticket again. 10, 11, 12 - Trump. 8, 9, 11 - Biden.

I get what you're saying, but this isn't just a Trump thing. It's getting old.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree completely. At a certain point you get a certain understanding of how this all works. I'm not happy about it and I'd like to change it (and when we have real primaries I've tried), but that's where it's at.

When you're young and have only seen Trump v Democrat it's a weird choice. I don't say that to downplay how bad Trump is, but I do want to highlight that it's a long term battle.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m not happy about it and I’d like to change it (and when we have real primaries I’ve tried), but that’s where it’s at.

If you're still pinning your hopes on electoral politics achieving meaningful change, you don't really get it at all.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Electoral politics, especially at the Presidential level, are not where the majority of my hopes go. My hopes are more directed at local politics, Federal Representatives, State Representatives & City/Town Representatives.

That being said a Trump presidency is still a disaster and a Harris presidency comes with a lot of wins. So picking the right person (and their policies) is still important.