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I don't have to imagine, I've lived in both, it is a reduced standard of living and saying it isn't is a lie. I've seen pictures of how you people want us to live, Hong Kong and Tokyo exist. I'd rather die of exposure in the woods than be forced into a coffin sized little apartment room that the poors get there.
What do "the poors" in America get? Right, they get to
I’ll take it over horizontal closet living.
I did some quick research, I looked for cheap living spaces in Tokyo, and then in Austin. For Tokyo, I found this: https://www.villagehouse.jp/en/rent/kanto/tokyo/hachioji-shi-132012/kobiki-3019/#3DK-5-503/ 50m^2, for about 400$ a month, less than 5 minute walk to the train station, where you can take a train towards the center of Tokyo.
For Austin, Texas, I searched on Zillow for living spaces in Austin, TX under 600$. I found this: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/400-E-6th-St-Austin-TX-78701/2057083232_zpid/? About 11m^2, for 450$ a month. To be fair, it's in the center of Austin, but I didn't limit my search to the center of Austin. And unlike Tokyo, Austin is not known for having great public transit, so you can't save money by forgoing a car.
In conclusion, chances are if you're low income, you'll have more space Tokyo.
I don’t want to live in either 20 foot box. Hard pass. Thank you for making my point.
So you don't know that 50 > 11? You're supposed to have learned this in 1st grade.
Edit: Sorry I just realized that given your level of education, I can't assume you know what ">" means. It means "is larger than". "50 > 11" means "50 is larger than 11". Or completely in words "Fifty is larger than eleven".
Yes 50 is bigger, and yet I still prefer a house. 20 feet by 20 feet. Woo hoo.
So, what's so bad about the Japanese apartment that you'd rather die than live there?
It’s a 20 foot box. My entire living space in 20x20. Shitting and eating and sleeping all in the same room. My Detroit apartment was slightly bigger than that. No, it’s terrible. I won’t have kids, that’s my ecological contribution. I’m not living in a city again.
It's a 3DK, which is means a Dining room, kitchen, and 3 multi purpose rooms. And if you look at the floor plan, then the toilet is in its own small room, which doesn't seem to count as 1 of the multi purpose rooms.
So how much space do you want? How much space would a living arrangement need to have?
I looked it up, fuck no that’s horrible. Actual Hell on earth.
Me personally I need a kitchen with more than a foot of counter space. Washer, dryer, garage workshop, basement gaming room. Not struggling to have three guests in my home and not going to a fucking laundromat is key, oh and a small yard at least.
How many people are you cooking for that you need a large kitchen? How often do you have a lot of guests? And what do you need the yard for?
I have 6-8 people over once a week. I have a dog. Having more than a foot of kitchen space is not s big kitchen. You’re never going to convince me a tiny apartment is worth a shit.