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Yeah you are. Real nice that you expect us to raise a generation of boys to have to see themselves as monsters.
No one is asking them to see themselves as monsters? You're creating a problem where there isn't one.
What is a child supposed to pull from the bear vs man type of discussions?
to be better than a bear probably?
children already know to be better than bears, what this argument provides for them is a window into what other people assume based only on gender
then why are so many men worse than bears
Their not
*they're
this is a trick quesion, they're not
when evauluating risk you have to take into account the general population, and the general population of bears is not exactly friendly
as is the general population of men, I think you guys missed the point of that whole discussion
I don't think you understand bigotry the way you pretend. I remember what my dad was like before he started watching fox and the way it rotted his brain and how it turned him from a reasonable well spoken human to a republican bigot. I see that in a lot of liberal discourse, but people think they are special and will never fall for the same shit that turned the party of Lincoln to the party of trump.
so your dad was brainwashed by right wing propaganda, what exactly are you trying to tell me with that?
The point is no one is immune to that. Its not exclusively a right wing thing.
so that makes it ok to be a bigot? it's not their fault?
Did I say that?
no I'm asking, what point are you trying to prove? how is it relevant to the discussion?
That anyone is vulnerable to that kind of brainwashing
ok but that irrelevant to what has been said before
No one is telling boys that they are monsters.
It is helpful that they know there are humans in the world who behave like monsters, and that some of them are men who target people who they perceive to be weaker than themselves.
So children, women, other men who are either physically smaller or in a lower position of power. That's what they need to know. So they can protect themselves, and help stop others from becoming someone else's monster if the opportunity arises.
Doing things like speaking out against sexual harassment, and calling out bullying behavior, this is everyone's responsibility btw. Not just men's and boys, but this is what needs to be taught so world can suck less.
But we only ever talk about boys being the problem. Half the comments here are about how dangerous men are.