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Two transgender girls can try out for and play on girls school sports teams while the teens challenge a New Hampshire ban, a federal judge ruled Tuesday.

The families of Parker Tirrell, 15, and Iris Turmelle, 14, sued in August seeking to overturn the Fairness in Women’s Sports Act that Republican Gov. Chris Sununu signed into law in July. While Turmelle doesn’t plan to play sports until December, Tirrell successfully sought an emergency order allowing her to start soccer practice last month. That order was expiring Tuesday.

In issuing a preliminary injunction, U.S. District Court Chief Judge Landya McCafferty found Tirrell and Turmelle were likely to succeed in their lawsuit. She found that the students “demonstrated a likelihood of irreparable harm” in the absence of a preliminary order.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Con: Literally every single professional athlete will become trans so they can win at sports.

Please tell me I'm missing the sarcasm here 🙄🤦‍♀️

What experts do you think are lying about trans people?

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What experts do you think are lying about trans people?

British pediatrician Hilary Cass, just for starters

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

That is true.

Did I miss the sarcasm or do you really think ANYONE would/could transition just for supposed gains in sports, let alone EVERYONE? They would have to take hormones that make them permanently infertile for over a year and proceed with a social transition all to convince a regulatory body that they are trans (and all of this would be incredibly difficult on their non-trans minds), and they would lose an incredible amount of muscle mass which typically athletes... Wouldn't want

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

do you really think ANYONE would/could transition just for supposed gains in sports, let alone EVERYONE?

No, that was pure sarcasm.

Even at the most practical level, there are easier and more effective ways to cheat at sports. But the hysteria around this thing that has never actually happened happening consistently means we need to pretend its a problem to soothe the nerves of people who are well past the point of competing in anything.

But the Cass Report shit was sincere. The amount of lying that went into structuring an argument for denying young people any form of bodily autonomy is staggering. Its going to go down in history like phrenology did. But we're going to be forced to treat it as seriously as the Hutus and the Tutsies were forced to treat a guy with calipers, because this pseudoscience is being enshrined into British national law.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm sure at least one person would, even if just to prove a point. There is almost always an exception.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If it's to prove a point then they won't pass the regulatory body, like when Ben Shapiro tried to get a bunch of mediocre male basketball players to pretend to transition to try to get them into a women's basketball tourney. It didn't work, because they were obviously not trans. It isn't even difficult to tell, because they obviously don't have the relationship with their gender trans people have. It would be hard to fake. And none of them were on hormones anyways so they wouldn't have qualified in the first place.

Estrogen supplementation on a male mind will cause gender dysphoria, so I don't think they would be able to keep it up for very long. But say one does, why would they knowingly make themselves infertile with no benefit? I know I had to weigh fertility and HRT and only went with HRT because of the mental health benefits that come with it. A cis man pretending gets no benefit, but does get:

  • Infertility
  • Significant muscle mass loss (remember we are talking about male athletes, muscles are kinda their whole thing)
  • Gender dysphoria, as they are now taking the wrong hormones
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I would guess, and I may be wrong, that the percentage of cis people that would get gender dysphoria is closer to 90% than 100%, if someone didn't plan on having kids ever (and didn't research other potential negatives like shrinkage) I could definitely see some trolls doing it just to prove "the libs" wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Consider also that receiving HRT requires you to convince your doctor you are trans, and Informed Consent comes into play. They would likely be informed of all of the side effects.

I would say that the 10% of cis men who wouldn't experience dysphoria in your hypothetical weren't cis in the first place. In fact, anyone who transitions to "own the libs" is probably just trans and scared.