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[alt text: a semi-surreal meme image on a plain white background. Two characters from Dark Souls are saying, "My lord, we have absolutely ESSENTIAL lore information for the player. Should we make a cutscrene for it?". They are looking at Hidetaka Miyazaki, who has the From Software logo emblazoned over him, and he is replying, "NO...Put it in the description of a COOKBOOK". There are several cookbook item icons floating between the characters.]

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Essential lore" is an oxymoron in these games

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

because all lore is essential, right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're thinking of "redundant".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Because of the lore I know why we fight Maliketh. But also because of the lore I don't know why we fight Maliketh instead of just asking for Destined Death.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

We fight him because he’s behind a fog wall.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone still playing through vanilla Elden Ring, none of that means anything to me. And if my first 80h are any indication, I'll finish the game and still have no idea.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That is the beauty of these games; you only get told the story if you go looking for it. You can still play the entire game and even all the extra content and not have a single thing straight told to you that's out of your control. Every time I go and play something else, the biggest frustration for me is that I'm just there for the game part, but it takes control away a lot just to give me half an hour of exposition to a story I'm not paying attention to.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

This might be a shit complaint on my part because these games are specifically for those type of people but I'm playing ff14 atm and they fuggin make me go across the world to talk to someone through a cut scene then make me go across the world again to rinse and repeat and that's the game. I understand repetition is to be expected in mmo questing, I played wow for 17 years but at least for wow there's some actual world exploration to be done to some degree and it isn't usually forcing you to cross the world constantly. Ff14 doesn't even have proper world exploration, they have teleport stones everywhere so you don't truly get to see what's up beyond following the quest lines. Glam, posing and rp saves that game.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m usually that person as well. BG3 was the first game in probably 8 years that hooked me on the story. If I sprinted through it, I would have probably saved like 80% of the time I spent playing it, but I enjoyed it. Maybe I’m simple, but to me it felt like the decisions mattered.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

The way I see it, if it's a rule of film to "show, don't tell", then it should be a rule of games to "engage, don't show and tell".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Because he'd say no. Better to ask for forgiveness.