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‘These ideas are incredibly popular’: what is degrowth and can it save the planet? (www.theguardian.com)

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“It is bad economics and it is also anti-scientific,” says Jason Hickel, the author of Less Is More. “People need to understand that ‘growth’ is not the same as social progress.”

Hickel is one of the leading lights in a growing post-growth or degrowth movement. Its proponents argue that economic success cannot be measured through the crude metric of gross domestic product (GDP) and that there needs to be a managed reduction in growth in carbon-intensive countries and industries.

“Growth simply means an increase in aggregate production, as measured in market prices,” says Hickel. “So, according to GDP growth, producing £1m worth of teargas is considered exactly the same as producing £1m worth of affordable housing or healthcare.”

Hickel says that what matters in terms of social progress is not aggregate production but the production of specific goods and services that are necessary for improving people’s lives and achieving ecological goals – and a reduction in overall growth in high-emitting sectors and countries.

“Every time a politician says they want more economic growth, we need to ask: growth of what and for whose benefit?”

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

GDP (gross domestic product) has always been a poor metric IMO. It prioritizes a never ending upwards trend to increase productivity and "produce more", all while assuming infinite resource's.

There needs to be a new metric that also takes into account the planet and sustainably. We dont have infinite resource's and at some point GDP will go off a cliff.

For example you can't just cut down 100 acears today, and in a effort to increase GDP cut down 200 acres tomorrow. At somepoint you will run out, and your GDP metric will fail.

A sustainable business that produces a steady flow while maintaining a steady supply should be the gold standard. A sustainable circular industry.

Long term vs short term thinking/profits.

Disclaimer: All things stated are my opinions and by all means I am not a expert. I am a ape.