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He’s had yet another horrible week. The old tricks aren’t working. Kamala Harris does not fear him. And it’s showing in the numbers.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

Hey now, we're only halfway there. Between Biden, Hillary and likely protesters for Palestine it can still be a shit-show convention.

Though fiercely hope not.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (15 children)

I love how Trump's treatment of the Kurds gets a free pass from those protesters.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

For those who hate clickbait:

  • Trump breaks silence on Israel's military campaign in Gaza: 'Finish the problem'

"The former president has largely avoided weighing in on Gaza as President Joe Biden has faced criticism from within the Democratic coalition over his support for Israel."

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

The Repub leadership seems to be clamoring for taking actions on a spectrum between deporting protesters to Gaza or simply nuking Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I would bet my next paycheck that most of them probably could not even explain what he did to the Kurds.

Most of them didn't know (or knew and did not care) about what Israel has been doing to Palestine for decades now, and were told that this is somehow Joe Biden's fault or some shit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

To be fair (and I was a great supporter of Dark Brandon), Joe Biden has been a huge supporter of Israel including derailing Hillary Clinton's attempt to stop settlement construction (when she was secretary of state).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

You do realize that there are Palestinians who live in the US, yes? And they're upset about their friends and families being slaughtered right now? And you're turning your nose up at them and saying, "What about the Kurds, tho"

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love how Trump's promise to deport those protesters gets a free pass from those protesters. My brother is one of them, always ranting about "Genocide Joe" and hating the Democrats passionately despite being (ostensibly) liberal. It's like in his universe the Republicans don't even exist, and I just can't understand his viewpoint.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's plain as day: They think their "conscious will be clean" and to them that's more important than the lives of millions of Palestinians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Or maybe they're upset about their friends and families being killed?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What Kurds

😢

(I know about it. I'm making a dark joke.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Just because you can doesn't mean you have to.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget boogaloo fellas and local cops who have been taken in by some kind of propaganda and left-wing useful idiots who got all spun up on internet nonsense to think that the best way to help the Palestinians is to make sure Trump gets elected. I hope not, but the convention has the potential to be a fuckin atom bomb of colliding toxic forces.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

left-wing useful idiots who got all spun up on internet nonsense to think that the best way to help the Palestinians is to make sure Trump gets elected.

I said it before about Biden and I'll say it again about Kamala: the one thing that could sink her chances will be to burn the bridge with pro-palestinian protestors.

It's not up to protestors if Kamala looses, it's up to Kamala.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is domestic abuse logic

"I have decided to do X, which outcome will be catastrophic, if you do Y. So therefore, if you do Y, it's going to become your fault what will happen."

If you wanna push the Democrats to better outcomes on Gaza, sounds fuckin great. I definitely think that the activism so far has woken them up + it's clearly better than just the only voice they hear that has any teeth being the Israel lobby. But don't play games with the placement of responsibility.

Did I send you the Ralph Nader interview where he talks about how to apply this principle (specifically to the Democrats, I think specifically as pertains to Gaza) productively instead of terroristically?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (26 children)

If you wanna push the Democrats to better outcomes on Gaza, sounds fuckin great

Then who the fuck are you complaining about?

That's what the protestors are doing you nag, maybe you should stop comparing them to domestic abusers

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden seems to be going all in for Harris, but according to the AP, the DNC still hasn't updated their paperwork to reflect Biden dropping out, so it could very well end up a shit show.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

I think Biden will be alright to be honest, even should he stumble through his speech it's not too bad given he's not running anymore. Just look at the joint Harris/Biden adress the other day about the pharmaceutical prices. Not a great speech by Biden, but everyone is sort of in "alright grandpa, let's get you to bed" mode.

The protests can get ugly, though I truly pray they won't. But another unfortunate reaction/statement about Palestine from Harris would be bad, and worst case the protests get violent and actual fights break out - which would be bad bad.

I also don't see why we're opening the Hillary box again even though it's just a speech. But what do I know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I hope it's a major shit-show. I want to see how Harris handles Gaza.

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