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[ā€“] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

So we have a right to murder innocent animals because we, the most destructive species in history, have deemed them ā€œinvasiveā€?

[ā€“] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Invasive species will lead to ecosystems being further destroyed. do you have any fuckin clue what you're talking about?

[ā€“] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Itā€™s a moral consideration this isnā€™t a fucking logic problem.

I donā€™t value ecosystems, but I do value animal lives. Unsure how I could be wrong about that on a moral level.

If a pack of dogs was loose in a forest; I would not kill the dogs, for example.

[ā€“] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Don't be silly. All moral considerations are logic problems. Theory without praxis is immaterial at best and concern trolling at worst.

And ecosystems are made up of a sum of lives, animal and otherwise. Their collapse inherently kills animals. There is no moral superiority in allowing deaths by inaction.

[ā€“] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

If the pack of wild dogs was eating every single deer and you wouldn't kill the dogs, you do not value animal lives.

[ā€“] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do we have the right to stop a forest fire simply because we deem it dangerous?

[ā€“] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Having the same moral value for a fire and living creature is wrong.

You can do a million things other than kill them to fix the problemā€¦ but killing them is cheapest, so thatā€™s whatā€™s done.

[ā€“] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I mean I'm not gonna kill myself because a few billionaires fucked the environment.

I feel like blaming the whole human species for ecosystem collapse and climate change isn't fair since we've existed for millennia, and the world was fine then.

"The industrial revolution and its consequences", not "the human species and its consequences"