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‘Boneless’ chicken wings can have bones, the Ohio Supreme Court says

https://www.npr.org/2024/07/25/nx-s1-5052004/boneless-chicken-wings-ohio-supreme-court

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I agree with the dissent in this case. What kind of Alice in wonderland bullshit are we living in where when you say boneless, you actually mean "THERE MAY BE BONES OVER AN INCH LONG IN THEM!"??

Words have meaning. It really shows how much these fuckers are cutting corners. If anything it's negligence for allowing a product such as this to reach the customer, get lodged in his throat, slice open his esophagus, get infected, and require two surgeries.

If the boneless wings had glass in them, would they be held negligent?

Here's the bit of dissent from the article.

"Dissenting Justices argued that a jury should have been allowed to determine whether the restaurant and suppliers were negligent, and called Deters' reasoning “utter jabberwocky.”

“When they read the word ‘boneless,’ they think that it means ‘without bones,’ as do all sensible people,” wrote Justice Michael P. Donnelly in dissent."

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can understand tiny pieces of bone making it in there, but a 1 and 3/8ths inch bone. That's nearly the length of the wing! It just seems like negligence on the meat processor (not necessarily on the restaurant)

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I’d say the restaurant is in charge of final QC. They’re handling it while cooking. This doesn’t absolve the producer, but, they do have an obligation to serve safe food.

But I’m also pretty irritated by supposed wing joints passing off frozen Cisco foods wings as their own when all they do is heat them in a microwave and toss some sauce.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

*Sysco

(TTS, or IT worker? 😁)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

(TTS, or IT worker? 😁)

Shhh.

In my defense… their products probably taste the same…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They toss the frozen wings into the fryer so that the breading stays crispy... The microwave ruins breading making it rubbery or mushy.

Equally as amazing as the processor missing a 1 inch bone is someone chewing so little that they didn't notice the bone. You're not a snake chew your food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They toss the frozen wings into the fryer so that the breading stays crispy... The microwave ruins breading making it rubbery or mushy.

So… that second part is how I know they didn’t fry it. I know that’s how it’s supposed to be done. Or baring a fryer, baking- preferably in a convection oven.

Equally as amazing as the processor missing a 1 inch bone is someone chewing so little that they didn't notice the bone. You're not a snake chew your food.

Never judge a species by their eating habits!

In any case, it’s not really his job to check for bones. It’s not something he should be worried about; he may not even have been sober enough to notice or care.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

In any case, it’s not really his job to check for bones.

Is that what you’ll tell your kids about bone safety? Don’t check for bones if they’re eating meat because it’s not their job?

Yes, a person shouid be able to detect a 1 3/8” bone in a chunk of meat they’re eating.

Doesn’t remove responsibility from everyone else in the chain though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Much like compressive or tensile forces, responsibility is perfectly capable of fully inhabiting every step of a series.

So if you put a linear stack of styrofoam blocks (negligible weight but some structural strength) and then put a 10 lb weight on top, every block in the stack experiences 10 lbs of force.

In the same way, I think every person along such a chain of custody can each, independently, be held fully responsible for a fuckup that makes its way down that line.