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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (9 children)

Repeat after me: Political Opponents Are Not Enemies.

What unites us is greater than what divides us. You think the country should be run this way, I think it should be run that way. That doesn't make me an idiot or your enemy. It doesn't mean I hate you. Your views are a result of your history, mine a result of mine. Views can change if presented with a compelling and respectful argument. But if you tell me I'm stupid for supporting a particular policy, that isn't going to change me; it just makes me think you're resorting to ad hominem because you can't construct a coherent explanation.

Here in the UK we just had elections. My wife voted one way, I voted another. It hasn't made the slightest difference to our marriage.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Your politics are a product of your material conditions, and whichever class you are in your rational political interests are at odds with the interests of the other class.

If you are a worker, you are at odds with the owning class. You cannot reason your boss into giving you the value you produce.

If you personally feel comfortable and it's not a big deal to you maybe you can just ignore it. But political disagreement arises from the opposed interests of the groups that compose a society.

What divides us is fundamental. What unites us with our rulers is obfuscation of that.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Someone who thinks my city should be run by representatives elected via proportionally appointed council members and someone who thinks it should be run by direct democracy might be political opponents but not enemies. Someone who thinks marginalized people should be criminalized or killed is my enemy, not my political opponent. Someone who thinks we should aggressively harm poor people in order to marginally increase the bottom lines of billionaires is also my enemy, not my political opponent.

This "everyone has good ideas and we can all disagree!" attitude is naive bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is very vague, I want you to actually list a few times you have changed someone's views for good and what those views were. Also, who are you picturing to be the recipient of this message? Someone else who only steers policy but will not be materially affected by it in any significant way, just like you?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Repeat after me: Political Opponents Are Not Enemies.

Fascists are my enemies

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Repeat after me: Political Opponents Are Not Enemies

Believe it or not, but people who think that the rest of the world should roll over for NATO with no resistance, and who think that committing genocides, such as the one carried out by NATO in Palestine, are my enemies.

What unites us is greater than what divides us

Lol. And what is it that 'unites' 'us'?

You think the country should be run this way, I think it should be run that way

'You think the country should be run without private prisons, endless colonialism and warfare, forcing people to live and die on the streets, barring people from accessing necessities such as healthcare and education, I think that we should have private prisons with prison quotas, endless colonialism and warfare, we should force people to live on the streets and torture them, we should prevent those dirty poors from accessing healthcare, education and other necessities. There is totally more that unites us than divides us'.

Views can change if presented with a compelling and respectful argument. But if you tell me I'm stupid for supporting a particular policy, that isn't going to change me

If you experience no pushback to your views, you will be too confident in your assumptions and wilfully ignorant to consider that you might be wrong, even when presented with facts.

Here in the UK we just had elections. My wife voted one way, I voted another. It hasn't made the slightest difference to our marriage.

There are basically no differences between the major parties in the UK, so that's not surprising.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Come on!

Yes I know my enemies

They’re the teachers who taught me to fight me

Compromise, conformity, assimilation, submission

Ignorance, hypocrisy, brutality, the elite

All of which are American dreams

All of which are American dreams

All of which are American dreams

All of which are American dreams

All of which are American dreams

All of which are American dreams

All of which are American dreams

All of which are American dreams

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

Here in the UK

Oh, now this makes much more sense:

You think the country should be run this way, I think it should be run that way. That doesn't make me an idiot or your enemy.

The problem is the "other way" to run the country is led by a literal idiot.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

There are evil people in the world that need to be shot, being wishy-washy just doesn't cut it with genociders or people that profit off of exorbitant insulin sales